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Canon 5D Field Report (followed by the news)

By Scott on Monday, August 20th, 2007 at 2:01 am | updates.

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As promised, here’s the first installment of my field reports on the gear I took out West last week, and I’m starting with the Canon 5D, which was my primary camera body for the entire trip. (The shot above is from Monument Valley at sunrise–click for a larger view).

As a longtime Nikon shooter, this was my first time out with one of Canon’s higher end digital rigs and Canon L glass, and although it was a bit awkward at first (just figuring out where all the dials and buttons I use most are located on a Canon body), by the second day I was totally comfortable and the transition was easier than I thought.

My field reports are based on my personal impressions (and not loads of lab testing), so I’m going to boil these field tests down to what I liked and didn’t like, so here goes:

What I liked best:

  • The low noise. As a general rule, I don’t shoot at 800 ISO or above unless it is an absolute emergency (and I cringe if I shoot at 400 ISO), but in both of my last shoots with the 5D I’ve shot at 1600 ISO and higher numerous times (even some when I was intending to) and the noise levels are shockingly low. This pretty much blew me away.
  • I fell in love with the scroll wheel on the back of the body. It makes image review so much easier and faster. It’s a little thing, but at this point, they’re all little things (well, except the low noise).
  • The weight: I was really surprised by the light weight of the 5D, and the 70mm-200mm lens. It seemed like half the weight of my regular rig, but not at all cheap or too lightweight.
  • I liked the full frame more than I thought I would, but then again I was shooting landscapes, and that let me really take advantage of the 16mm wide angle lens (which I love).
  • The Canon IS (Image Stabilization) is just outstanding. Better than anything I’ve used on any brand. Period.
  • I like the 9-point AF system quite a bit, and the overall picture quality rocks.

What I didn’t like:

  • The thing that drove me particularly crazy was the fact that you can’t get full-screen Highlight (clipping) warnings. In fact, worse than that, to get them at all, you have to first take the shot, then push a button to switch to the postage-stamp sized view of your shot, and its so small that if something is blinking it’s just about impossible to tell if it’s an area of important detail or not. This drove me nuts. Now, I heard someone say that the new Mark III has full screen clipping warnings, but I haven’t confirmed that (if anyone knows for sure—let me know).
  • The other thing that threw me was the sound and feel of the shutter button. Longtime Canon users look at me like I’m crazy when I mention this, but it just feels kind of “Digital.” It doesn’t feel “real” and even though there’s no shutter lag, it feels like it doesn’t matter whether you’re shooting at 1/60 of a second or 1/8000, the shutter sounds the same. This could just be me, because after a day or so it didn’t bother me as much, but it definitely takes some getting used to.

Other than those two things; I have to say I’m very impressed with the 5D and I’m starting to see what all the fuss is about. I haven’t had a chance to do any serious portrait or studio work, and I’ll be interested to see how it performs there, especially how it captures skintone. I’ll continue my landscape field testing going into Photoshop World next month, where I’ll be shooting out in the desert once again (it’s a great way to lose weight).

More field tests this week, including the new Sigma 300mm zoom, the Really Right Stuff BH-40 Ballhead, the Gizto traveler tripod, and more.

Now, scoll down to the next post for a fresh cup of Monday news (that’s called spin, by the way).

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  1. #1

    thank you Mr. Kelby yours field reports was very helpful and enjoyable to read, i totally agree with you about the shutter-sound-thing way to cheap digitally-plasticl
    i don’t know about you, but i hate the way canon’s 5D feels in my hands(i got big ones though ;)

    still waiting for the sigma glass review! thank you Mr. Kelby

    Ali on August 20th, 2007 at 6:31 am
  2. #2

    Welcome, welcome, welcome!

    (To the family!)

    Justin on August 20th, 2007 at 7:33 am
  3. #3

    So the real question is it worth switching camps? I have been thinking about this for a while - especially being around Canon shooters all the time - but I just like the ergo of the Nikon. I think you’re probably right that after a bit of time the dials and buttons would become second nature.

    Anyway - so is the NIkon gear going on the shelf? Or i guess a better question - if you had a limited budget is what you saw worth jumping camps?

    Duane on August 20th, 2007 at 9:08 am
  4. #4

    I have a Canon D5 and also the new Mark111. If you like the D5 you will really like the Mark111. Its great. The sounds of a shutter sounds very minor to me, its the quality and flexability of everything else that is important. It seems that Nikon people[which is a great camera] are holding on to [I like what it used to be in the competive market] and not keeping an open mind to Canon’s great progress. The Mark111 does have full screen warnings. I truly enjoy your books and writings, I am glad to see Canon finally get some acknowledgement.

    Bill Maddux on August 20th, 2007 at 9:25 am
  5. #5

    Great stuff Scott, especially about the 5D, which I have and use most of the time. Perhaps there is a sea of change in your future:).

    Pat

    Pat Flanakin on August 20th, 2007 at 11:22 am
  6. #6

    Hi Scott,

    There seems to be quite a few coincidences here; lately I’ve been shooting weddings using high iso indoors using only natural light. Sure the noise with the Nikon is noticeable but it does add a little character to the image. However, there are times when I’d like it to be a little less and the use of Noiseware can, as you know cause loss of detail. The Canon 5D is what I’ve been looking at too but not sure if I can justify the switch with all the Nikon equipment I have.

    I look forward to hearing what you have to say about the possibility of make the move to Canon, so I wait with ‘plastic’ in hand :o)

    All the best to you and yours,
    Glyn

    Glyn Dewis on August 20th, 2007 at 11:51 am
  7. #7

    Scott,

    Were you using the 70-200 f/2.8 or f/4? I’ve been looking at these more and more recently. I also have the 5D and absolutely love it.

    Joe

    Joe on August 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pm
  8. #8

    I went to MV a few years back. I always tell folks, that it is one of the most beautiful paces on earth. Your photos show that.. I wish that the photos I took there were half as good as yours. You had the luxury of time.. I.E. waiting for sunset/sunrise. I had to take in the middle of day.. I need the Scott Kelby creative eye..

    Thom Dombrowski on August 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
  9. #9

    Just last night I finally decided to see how the highlight warning on my Canon rebel XTI works, after reading about it on your “The Digital Photography Book”. Just like you, I also found it really weird that it only shows up on the stamp sized picture.

    Thiago Almeida on August 20th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
  10. #10

    The 5D has been my main body for just over a year, with a 30D backup. The 5D is a dream.

    I want to address one issue you had, though. The sound of the shutter. Compare the 30D to the 5D, and the 5 sounds quite nice. The reason it sounds the same whether at 1/8000 or at 1/60, is that the shutter takes exactly the same amount of time to travel open and closed again, no matter what the shutter speed. The only difference is the time in between. The shutter doesn’t move any faster for faster exposures. I’m sure you know this, but I wanted to mention it, just the same.

    The 5D’s image quality, in my opinion, is second to none. True full frame is a dream, but one easily realized, thanks to Canon. Noise control is, as you say, shocking. The difference is especially noticeable when compared to Nikon. I haven’t seen a shot over ISO 800 from a Nikon that didn’t look grossly noisy when compared to a similar Canon shot. Sadly, even the Rebels have better noise control than the Nikons for the most part. However, maybe someday that’ll be improved to match Canon.

    Canon also makes some simply outstanding glass. 35L, 135L, 85L, 70-200 2.8L IS, 24-70 2.8L, and so on. All just amazing. The 5D is “the” body for weddings and portraits.

    Ronald S. Jr. on August 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
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    Oh…also, in reference to your skin tone comment. In a recent test, the 5D was found to have the nicest and most accurate skin tone of any current DSLR. Just fyi. I find it impeccable.

    Ronald S. Jr. on August 20th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
  12. #12

    Scott,

    Love my 5D, the output colors are amazing. How did it perform with the Sigma lens ?? Any issues. Did you capture any comparative shots between Canon glass and Sigma ?

    You might want to add - “Check battery” to the WHIMS list. I went out the other night to catch a few shots of the local area to only find out that my battery was extremely low and my back ups hadn’t been recharged. (I’ll have to fire the charger, oops that’s me)

    Maybe it should be the WHIMSICAL list

    * WHIMS plus…..

    * I: Inspect Lense (for dirt etc), stabilizer on or off ?
    * C: Check Charge

    Peter on August 20th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
  13. #13

    WHIMSICAL Cont’d

    * A - Align
    * L- LUCK !!!!

    Peter on August 20th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
  14. #14

    Hi Scott,

    “In fact, worse than that, to get them at all, you have to first take the shot, then push a button to switch to the postage-stamp sized view of your shot, and its so small that if something is blinking it’s just about impossible to tell if it’s an area of important detail or not.”

    Allthough I agree with your gripe about the absence of a full frame blown out highlights warning I wanted to point out you can get it right away after the shot without pushing a button. Just set the review time to a reasonable # of seconds and make sure you set the info button to the setting that includes the highlight warning (albeit small). This will become the default after that and show up after each shot. Combined with the 3-color histogram this gives at least some indication about the quality of the exposure.

    joris on August 21st, 2007 at 7:18 am
  15. #15

    Dear Scott,
    perhaps the only one comment from a Nikon Shooter. . .
    Are you really a Canon switcher? I miss your answer here???
    Or could you test the brandnew Nikon yet.
    I love all my Nikon gear (D200 - Platinum TIPA Award Winner and the great F/2.8 lenses I have). I would hate it, to have an old camera each 6 months ;-))
    The most important part of good photographs is still the woman/man behind it ;-)

    All the best with your Canon gear,
    Holger

    By the way, did Matt, Dave and Corey switch to Canon as well?

    Holger on August 22nd, 2007 at 3:07 pm
  16. #16

    Great time to switch Scott! Nikon just released the D3 and D300m - look like the D300 will blow the 5D away - look slike Canon conned (Cannoned) you!

    Nick Green on August 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 am
  17. #17

    Cant wait to see the reviews on gitzo tripod and ball head.

    would be helpful if you could give suggestions for modestly priced tripods since gitzo is on the hihger end

    Sanjay on August 23rd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
  18. #18

    Long time reader, first time commenter, great topic, love the blog.

    I returned a one week rental on a Mamiya 7 today in order to compare film with my 5D shots because I have been disappointed in the noise from the digital. You are the second person in a week to indicate that I’m nuts. Would you be so good as to share resources or your personal custom settings on the 5D to see if that is my problem? Otherwise I have shot with it for a year and a half and love it.

    Mel Trittin on August 23rd, 2007 at 6:18 pm
  19. #19

    Scott I am currently reading your book digital photography ,it is awesome. I had a few questions i shoot with a canon 20d ,and when i shoot flowers etc .. the colors i see on the lcd do not appear to match the actual color of the flower in some cases its not even close like purple becomes a light blue or almost an bluish white. I have tried changing the white balance setting (other than custom setting) and still the same effect. Do you have any suggestions that would help me ?
    Also i read and i wished i had read it before , on epson printers , are they that much better than the canon printer i have the i9900 , i have had really good luck with it ,a nd the prints seem really nice this is a 2006 model (the older version )but i only have an hp photo printer to compare it to. i am an amueture photographer that has a lot to learn , and someday would like to create some awesome prints. Any advice would be helpful ,books etc to get me going in the right direction. Do you have any recommendations for a 70-200 2.8 lens ? Canon ,Sigma , now tamron ? are any way better than the others? and is image stabilization the way to go . i shoot high school sports (my kids and their friends ) and wildlife with a monopod when possible. Anyhow Scott thanks , i love your book ….Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher on August 27th, 2007 at 8:53 am

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