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Getting That Cool Gritty Look Right in Camera Raw and Photoshop or Lightroom

By Scott on Thursday, March 6th, 2008 at 6:03 am | updates.

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Before: The original unretouched image of Issac. (Click on it for a larger view)

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After: Issac after applying the effect in Camera Raw and Photoshop (no plug-ins). (Click on it for a larger view)

Direct Gritty Technique
Back on Tuesday a posted a review of the Lucis Art plug-in for Photoshop, which gives you a one-click solution for getting that cool gritty look that’s been made so popular by photographers like Dave Hill (see the Tuesday post for more on this).

Anyway, last year, on Photoshop User TV, my co-host Matt Kloskowski showed how to get that kind of gritty effect from right within Lightroom (he showed the effect applied to an old car), and then I started showing it in both my Lightroom Tour and my Photoshop CS3 Power Tour (where I applied it to a shot of one of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers).

The key to making this technique is the lighting of your subject. If you don’t have a shot with that high contrast, hard-edged light creating serious highlights and shadows, it just doesn’t work (so, in short; if you’ve got the right kind of image—it works wonders. If you don’t—you’re hosed). On Tuesday, I showed a shot I took of Photoshop User magazine editor Issac Stolzenbach, posing with his motorcycle, and I applied the Lucis Art plug-in to it to get “The Look.”

The shots you see of Issac above (click on them for a larger view) are processed entirely in Camera Raw and Photoshop, without the use of any plug-ins. But there was something that occurred to me while looking (once again) at Dave Hill’s photos that finally clicked with me, and helped me take it to the next level (that, in a moment). First, the settings you need to get this look (in Camera Raw) and then in Lightroom (just so you know—they’re the same).

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You can click on the graphic above for a larger view, but either way; here is the basic formula:

  • Recovery = 100
  • Fill Light = 100
  • Blacks = Drag this slider to the right until photo looks balanced again, because setting the Fill Light at 100 will wash the photo out big time. In our example, I dragged it to 24
  • Contrast = 100
  • Clarity = 100
  • Vibrance = 100
  • Saturation = -81 (basically what I do here is drag the saturation all the way to the left, to -100 (which removes all color, making it a black and white image), and then I slowly drag back to the right until some of the color starts to return to the image.

If after making these settings, the image looks way too bright, you may have to decrease the Exposure just a little bit, by dragging the Exposure slider to the left. If it’s too dark; increase the Exposure (so basically, those are starting points).

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After those settings are in place, go to the Lens Correction tab to add a dark edge vignette around the edges of the photo. Drag the Amount slider to -100, and the Midtone slider to around 20 (as shown below) to darken in all the edges.

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The thing I learned, that “aha” moment from looking at Dave Hill’s images is that the skin on everybody (including the men) is silky smooth. In fact, it’s the level of skin smoothing we’d normally apply to a photos of woman, but most of the images on Dave’s site are men. Because this technique adds so much midtone sharpening, it makes every little line, crevasse, and wrinkle stand out like crazy.

Above you see the image of Issac before I applied the skin smoothing technique in Photoshop (which I’ll show you in just a moment). You see how sharp and contrasty his skin is once the effect is applied? We need to greatly soften that. So after I apply those settings (in either Camera Raw or Lightroom’s Develop Module), I then open the image in Photoshop. The technique I used to soften the skin was to apply a 20 pixel Gaussian Blur to the entire image, then lower the Opacity of this layer to 50%. Then I add a Layer Mask to this layer (click the Layer Mask icon at the bottom of the Layers palette); get the Brush tool, choose a soft-edged brush, and then paint over his skin, while avoiding his eyes, eyebrows, lips, teeth, nostrils, hair—-these are details areas you want to keep crisp.

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Look at the image above, and how much softer his skin looks after the softening effect is applied in Photoshop.

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Later that same day, I took that same effect and applied it to a photo of our buddy Corey Barker (The Photoshop Lad, and co-host of Layers TV), posed by his car, which is shown above with a before/after side-by-side image (that’s Matt Kloskowski sneaking into my shot–click for a much larger view). Matt and Corey were so small in the image that I didn’t do the skin softening technique.

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On Wednesday, after my band (Big Electric Cat) wrapped up a rehearsal for our gig at BB King’s Blues Club & Grill during Photoshop World, I grabbed the band members for a quick promo photo shoot in the same location (click on it for a larger view). Here’s the problem; the effect in Camera Raw looked “OK” but it just wasn’t really looking right, so instead I ran the Lucis Art plug-in on it, and BAM—it was there! (click the image above for a larger view: From L to R that’s Scott Stahley on Drums, Tony Llanes on Lead Guitar, Kalebra on lead vocals, me on keyboards, and Felix Nelson on Bass). Note: The band above photo was taken by RC Concepcion.

Note: Last night I was experimenting with doing the skin softening BEFORE you run the Lucis Art plug-in, and after seeing the results, I think it’s probably better to do it beforehand—(but only if you’re using the plug-in). Give it a try and see what you think.

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The original photo: Tony, our guitar player, shot with three Elinchrom RX-600 strobes: One behind him on the left and one behind him on the right (both just outside of the frame). They had no softboxes attached—just metal reflectors, and we put two black flags between them and my camera so I didn’t get lens flare from the flash. The main light was a RX-600 with a 53″ Mini-Octa softbox positioned to the left of my camera. This lighting set up gives us the hard edge rim lights on either side of his face, and the center of his face is lit from the Main light.

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Tweaked in Camera Raw using the settings you learned earler; this version looks “OK,” but it really doesn’t have that painterly look that’s characteristic of this look.

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Lucis Art: Here I applied the Lucis Art plug-in, and to me this looks much better. I also added a dark edge vignette to darken the edges, however I didn’t add the skin softening to this image yet (but I think it could use it).

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Above: That’s me shooting Tony (photo by RC Concepcion) just so you can see how bare bones everything was. You can see the 53″ mini-octa over my shoulder.

So, what did I learn from all this?

  1. Although the Camera Raw (and Lightroom) recipe I gave you above will work with the right kind of image, the Lucis Art plug-in gives you that look much more consistently with a much broader range of images. In short: when the Camera Raw recipe won’t work; Lucis Art usually will.
  2. After the effect is applied (either the Camera Raw/Lightroom version or the Lucis Art version), you need to soften everybody’s skin quite a bit
  3. You often can apply the Lucis Art filter two times in a row, if you apply the filter to a copy of the Background layer, then lower the Opacity to around 20 or 30%.
  4. As always; it’s all about the lighting. When the lighting is right, everything else falls into place. By the way; the lighting here isn’t right, but it’s a start—I’ve got a lot more tweaking to do to get it where I want it.

Before we go, I just want to give a special thanks to my buddy RC Concepcion (co-host of Layers TV). RC usually works with me on all our studio and location shoots, and he not only gets everything up and running, he shoots me shooting, too, so he really has his hands full. I couldn’t do all this without him, and I’m so grateful for his help, input and ideas. If you see RC, or visit his blog, or see him at Photoshop World, make sure you give him a high-five for me.

NAPP MEMBERS: I’m taping a video tutorial for the NAPP member website today on this Photoshop and Lightroom technique. Although I’m filming it today, I can’t swear that the video dept. will be able to get it edited, compressed, and online today, so if it’s not on the member Website by this afternoon, check back there tomorrow. Not here—there. :)

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  1. #1

    Hey Scott,
    thank you very much for all your tips, I’m still learning……
    I’ve seen your Zildjian tee in your band’s pic and I can’t resist to write you
    I’m a pro drummer photographer, a very rare “animal”. so we have the same passion, music and photos.
    Thank you very much again for your work, I’ll follow you over and over!!!!

    All the best from Italy

    Dan

    Dan on March 6th, 2008 at 6:23 am
  2. #2

    Awesome Scott. How can I be the man if you’re the man :-)

    www.crashtaylor.com

    Crash on March 6th, 2008 at 7:00 am
  3. #3

    I found you can also get a pretty good effect by using Tonal Contrast in Nik Color Efex Pro. Apply it a few times to and image (the right image) and it looks pretty darn good.

    David on March 6th, 2008 at 8:52 am
  4. #4

    Scott, many thanks to you and EVERYONE involved in this tutorial. I can’t speak for others, but this photog/photoshop n00b appreciates your tireless efforts.

    Mike on March 6th, 2008 at 8:57 am
  5. #5

    Scott, this is off topic, but I thought of you as I watched “Helvetica”, the font documentary, last night. Really peels the covers back on a subject I knew little about, and as a self-professed font geek, this one is for you!
    http://www.helveticafilm.com/

    Best pixels,

    Bruce

    Bruce Thayer on March 6th, 2008 at 9:32 am
  6. #6

    Dude, you rock! Thanks so much for the carefully documented guidance for producing this killer look.

    Steven Erat on March 6th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
  7. #7

    Another cool technique, and very well demonstrated. I’ll look for it on the NAPP site this weekend when I get home from my trip. Keep up the tips and techniques Scott - always so helpful!

    Jason on March 6th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
  8. #8

    More great stuff, poor Dave Hill is looking over his shoulder now. I notice in the shot of you shooting Tony, that you have an Elinchrom Skyport in your hot shoe. The same Skyports that you hinted your where going to review last week. On February 27th, in your Lasolite Hilte ‘Scott thinks it’s Hot’ entry, you wrote “…and I fired the strobes using Elinchrom’s Skyports (more on them later this week).” So… how are they?

    Michael on March 6th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
  9. #9

    You Da Man! Hey, I have been playing with the fake-HDR look using Camera Raw for awhile and what I have dound is that if it is going to go “Bad” it’s going to be with the fill light slider. Sometimes that fill will push a dark area into turning white, almost a solarized effect which really kills the rest of the image. It happens a lot in the pupils. But like you said, when you find the right photo, it kicks butt.

    Jeff on March 6th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
  10. #10

    Excellent Scott - that skin smoothing tip was the missing link - fantastic!

    Hutch on March 6th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
  11. #11

    Scott, you completely missed the whole secret to Dave Hill.
    If you go to his site & watch a few Videos of his shoots, you’ll notice that he uses a humongous ring flash (about 18″ diameter) as the Main on camera or Close to lens, light. It’s DIRECT flash
    This is KEY to getting the initial contrast.
    The backgrounds & fills (DH’s) are all softboxes but the ring light is really ‘in your face’

    derek roe on March 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
  12. #12

    Dave Hill Technique = The Phil Collins Drum Sound…

    It was awesome the first time we all saw it, and now it’s everywhere…

    And of course, the only one who can really do it is Dave…

    Hexabuzz on March 6th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
  13. #13

    Scott…I used the gritty look on some gourds and really liked the way it turned out.

    http://citrus.pixyblog.com/entry/gourds

    Roger

    Roger Bourland on March 6th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
  14. #14

    Hello Scott! Great entry.

    Is there a way to get this effect if you do not shoot raw? I need to start shooting raw –the aftermath seems much better.

    Take care

    Magdalena Mancuso on March 6th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
  15. #15

    Great tutorial, Scott!

    Hey, my six days of being unable to view KOT videos has come to an end thanks to the great help from the backroom boys in Support — you know who you are — you guys rock!

    Balliolman :)

    Balliolman on March 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
  16. #16

    I agree with #11. Dave Hill images have a soft front light.
    even lighting that allows to increase teh contrast.
    anyone I wonder why everyone wants to copycat this look. it appears a bit gimmicky to me and akin to airbrush art of the 70s.
    I think Dave Hill images have a lighting that is more flat and complex and anyway the end result looks more like illustration than photography.

    I desaturate my images and a add osme vignetting but i found adding too much clarity and recovery creates unnatural halos.

    something i like is decreasing exposure increasing brigtness and blacks.

    anyway - some of my recent images processed in LR are at stefanogiovannini dotcom [mind the spelling]

    stefano on March 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
  17. #17

    actually i have to say that maxing recovery+fill light and increasing the blacks works really well to recover underexposed images i took with the on camera flash -
    about a couple of stops.

    and easy with clarity!

    stefano on March 6th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
  18. #18

    More great stuff from Mr. Kelby! How many hours are there in your day Scott? I don’t know how you do it, but keep doing it for everyones sake.

    See you in Orlando!!

    -Bob

    Bob DeChiara on March 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
  19. #19

    Hi Scott,
    Many thanks for helping me become a better photographer.
    The guys at Radiant Vista had a go at this last year, & I thought you might not be aware. Their result is slightly different but I thought you might like to know. The posted a video on their “photoworkbench” section (radiantVista_pw_070621).
    Kind Regards,
    Sal.

    Salvador Castelo on March 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
  20. #20

    Scott,

    I tried playing with this technique and then used the skin softening technique Dave Ziser posted recently on his blog. They work pretty well together. I also added a black and white layer in Overlay blend mode set to 50% to add a little contrast and mute the colors some. Here is the final image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2315112751_708411cb51.jpg

    Thanks for all the awesome information and tutorials that you share with us!

    God bless

    Justin on March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
  21. #21

    Scott, you absolutely rock!! Like Bob said above, I don’t know how you squeeze so much into a day, and your information is always so timely!! Thanks so much for really leading the educational front for photography…we all benefit…

    Cheers,

    Scotty

    Scotty Graham on March 6th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
  22. #22

    Amazing, I just love Scott Kelby!

    Fotograf on March 7th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
  23. #23

    Great stuff Scott!

    You hit the nail right on the head. I think Dave does most of his shots with carefully planned lighting, but your process is as close as can get with existing photos. Nice work! I’ve been using a cool little photoshop action I got from http://www.photographyBB.com called the Urban Art Action - a small investment but it was pretty close to this look, from working only in Photoshop.

    Now I’m going to have to get Lightroom I see ;)

    James

    james007 on March 8th, 2008 at 5:45 am
  24. #24

    hey scott…. i love what you have shown us! great job and thank you VERY much for the tips…

    what i would like to know is if you are using a PC then what would you have to do in the camera raw set up?

    also, is there a way that i would be able to use a JPG file as i do have some great photographs from my other camera which only shoots in JPG format

    big rick on March 8th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
  25. #25

    Is this up yet? I can’t seem to find it…

    Jason on March 9th, 2008 at 1:22 am
  26. #26

    Great tips thanks for sharing this…

    Mchilly on March 9th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
  27. #27

    Hi Dave. I love your work, go to your seminars whenever you hit Denver but I have never seen a way to make “old paper” and can’t seem to search it on Photoshop User. I have a class task of doing something egyptian and am looking to to that old, brown paper type of look. Any suggestions of where to look?

    Thanks again for all your lessons!

    Lori Poyer on March 10th, 2008 at 10:10 am
  28. #28

    Hi Scott,
    I’ve downloaded the demo for lucisart but I can’t get it running on my intel mac. Everytime I checked the box for photoshop to run under rosetta, it crashes everytime. Somebody, anybody please help me!

    Fairuz on March 11th, 2008 at 1:17 am
  29. #29

    Scott- With all due respect- Why are you paying so much attention to the “Dave Hill” look. As an artist I think it’s important to be aware of what photographers have done in the past and are doing in the present. But to many people just copy others processes.

    It is extremely important to use techniques to define your own unique vision and voice. A process is merely a tool for your vision. Anyone can slap the dave hill look on an image but it’s meaningless if it’s not part of your creative vision. Lack creative vision and you’ll be lost in a sea of dave hill lookalikes.

    ED McCulloch on March 11th, 2008 at 9:48 am
  30. #30

    Offtop.

    Dear Scott,- thank you for your work, - by the way, could you tell your friends in Adobe that the picture on their site (link below) is not the right way to imitate “Dave Hill” look or others?
    http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/?ogn=EN_US-gntray_prod_acrobat_family_home

    Robert Klein on March 12th, 2008 at 3:34 am
  31. #31

    Hi Scott

    I’m using Photoshop CS2 and my Camera Raw settings are not as comprehensive as the ones you show - are they only available in CS3?

    Great tutorial btw, can’t wait to try it out fully.

    Paul F on March 17th, 2008 at 9:03 am
  32. #32

    Just other day I was playing with LucisArt to get this look for a very suitable photo taken in my basement with 2 off-camera sb-600s through umbrellas: http://x-processed.ca/index.php?showimage=494
    I didn’t apply skin softening since my daughter’s skin is free from defects we, old guys, have and Lucis didn’t ruin it.

    Andriy on March 19th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
  33. #33

    I’ve downloaded the demo version of Lucisart to give it a try but i’m yet to achieve results as good as I’m seeing on this page.

    While I understand the lighting is the key ingredient, what particular lucisart filter should I be using and at what mix ?, just a ballpark figure would be good as I dont see any details here.

    I expect the Sculp filter but at what strength and mix ?

    Steve A on March 24th, 2008 at 5:07 am
  34. #34

    Alright!
    You’re the 1st that actually got close to that look we were all dying for to find out! Congratulations and thank you very, very much.

    Abdallah on March 25th, 2008 at 7:06 am
  35. #35

    Nice tutorial but i don’t gets what is “gritty” about this look. It looks like airbrushed fashion photos but over saturated/contrasted.
    Nice tutorial, repulsive aesthetic.

    unsung on March 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
  36. #36

    Hey Scott,
    Ok, I know there is no way that you read all of these comments, but if you do…to the above poster, it’s true that Dave Hill uses a ring flash most of the time, that is the thing that I noticed about your BTS photo above, he shoots pretty bare, maybe take off the front diffusion panel or use a smaller light source.

    I’ve heard/seen that Dave also shoots with six or more heads, lighting everything individually. On a podcast he did say that he mostly uses the ringflash as fill and if it’s not on the camera, it’s because he’s too tired to hold it and he’ll just get one of his assistants to bang it from the side. He spends hours creating just one image, while everyone else is trying to do it with a plug-in or an action.

    “What good is originality if you can’t crank it out?” Calvin and Hobbs

    zac on March 28th, 2008 at 3:14 am
  37. #37

    e, 13 May 2008 22:12:43 -0500
    Scott: do you cover the issue of Adobe Gamma Loader?

    Could be a combination of these effects:

    http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1094

    —– Original Message —–
    From:
    Newsgroups: adobe.photoshop.windows
    Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:03 PM
    Subject: Re: Is Adobe Gamma not installed with CS3?

    >I have a similar problem. I can open Adobe Gamma from the Control
    Panel but
    >cannot get it to run at startup, even though I put a shortcut to the
    Adobe
    >Gamma Loader in my Programs/Startup folder.
    > Any ideas on how to load Adobe Gamma at startu

    cma on May 14th, 2008 at 9:15 am

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