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Day 2 of Lighting Gear Week

By Scott on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008 at 2:16 am | updates.

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OK, so yesterday we looked at a very inexpensive way to do a location portrait shoot, or some wedding photography, using simple a “Hot Shoe” flash, one light stand and an umbrella. Today we’re going to take it up a notch.

There are two main things I’d tell a friend to get next:

  1. An additional hot shoe flash unit
    This gives you the ability to add a hair light, light a bride from behind, light a background, light a room interior, and about a dozen other things that will give your lighting a more professional look.

    Nikon: If you’re a Nikon user and your DSLR has a pop-up flash, you’ll be able use it to wirelessly operate both flash units. If you have a high-end Nikon D2X, or a Nikon D3, they don’t have a built-in pop-up flash, so you’ll need to buy Nikon’s SU-800 Commander wireless transmitter unit (link). It costs around $250, but if you have a D2X or a D3—you can afford it.

    Canon: If you’re a Canon user, you’ll need Canon’s $210 ST-E2 wireless transmitter (link) to operate those 580 EX IIs wirelessly).

  2. A Reflector
    This will help you fill in hard shadows on the opposite side of your subject’s face, and create a smoother more professional looking transition from the bright side of your subjects face to the shadow side facing away from the camera. It kind of acts like a second light, which is particularly important if your second flash is doing something else (like lighting a background, or hair, etc.).westcottref.jpg
    The reflector I use most is a Westcott Illuminator 30″ Square Reflector with silver on one side and gold on the other side. It’s collapsible, so it folds up into a small circle and fits in a little zipper case, and together they weigh next to nothing. It costs around $61 (here’s the link to it on B&H Photo).

Now, if you “work alone” (you don’t have an assistant helping you on shoots), then you’ll need to get a second light stand, and swivel adapter to hold your second flash (luckily, as you learned yesterday, those are pretty inexpensive), but you’ll also need a lightstand with a boom arm and two clips to hold your reflector in place.

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The lightstand/boom-arm reflector holder
I one use is from Impact, and it runs about $80 from B&H (here’s the link). It sounds like $80 is a lot, until you have to pay an assistant to hold your reflector for a day, then it sounds like a bargain, and it pays for itself in one gig.

Since you bought an extra lightstand and swivel clamp, you may as well spend the extra $10 and get another 30″white translucent umbrella for that second flash unit.

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You can carry all your stands, umbrellas, adapters, and even your reflector (abiet a bit snugly lengthwise), in Impact’s Light Kit Bag #3, which sells for around $45 (here’s the link).

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Now, you can toss your new flashes in your camera bag, but if you don’t mind spending a little more, you can really protect your stuff and use the same case I use; the Pelican 1560B Watertight Hard Case with Black Dolly with Foam (in Black). I use it to carry my three SB-800s, my SU-800 Commander Unit, my Nikon Battery Back, three table stands, three sets of gels, and I have room to spare. It’s rugged, it’s pretty small in size, and it rolls. It’s around $139 (here’s the link). (Note: the image above shows a version of the case with padded dividers. Mine just has foam, and I popped out little pre-cut segments to perfectly fit my equipment snug as a bug).

Now, you can stop right here, and you’ll have a very workable system with two lights, on stands, with umbrella diffusers, a reflector to fill in shadows, and a stand to hold it up. Plus, you can work alone, because the whole system is very lightweight, and easy to set-up and operate.

Nikon Users: To add this additional SB-800 flash unit, another lightstand, swivel adapter, umbrella, 30″ reflector, boom lighting stand, the rolling Pelican case for your flashes and flash accessories, and the Impact carrying case for your stands and other lighting gear, it (altogether) runs $700 (so add that to your $375 flash and stands, etc. from yesterday, and you’re at $1,075 for the whole 2-light kit and kaboodle).

Canon Users: To add this additional Canon 580 EXII flash unit, another lightstand, swivel adapter, umbrella, 30″ reflector, boom lighting stand, the rolling Pelican case for your flashes and flash accessories, and the Impact carrying case for your stands and other lighting gear, it (altogether) runs $785 (so add that to your $375 from yesterday, and you’re at $1,160, but realistically you’re going to need that wireless transmitter, which adds another $210, so you’re at $1,370).

But, if you can spend $40 more, you might like this better:

I mentioned yesterday, I’m not a big fan of umbrellas, but using them like we’re doing here (firing directly through them), does work well, and this is the only way I’ll use umbrellas. That being said, I personally prefer softboxes, but I can’t always take large softboxes with me on location shoots, so I use the next best thing: I fire my hot shoe flashes through a Lastolite 33″ tri-grip 1-stop diffusion panel held up by a Lightstand to greatly spread and diffuse the light. This has both advantages and disadvantages:

  1. The advantages are that your diffuser is not tied to the same lightstand as your flash is, so you can position the diffuser as far away from the flash unit as you’d like, to create a very large softbox like quality of light.
  2. Another advantage is that you can use the diffuser as a reflector
  3. You can use it outdoors to diffuse direct sunlight (it works fantastic for this).
  1. The disadvantages are: it requires another lightstand and a clamp to hold it up
  2. It’s more expensive than an umbrella. (The trigrip I’m talking about costs $68).

B&H photo has put a special kit together called “The Scott Kelby Location Kit” (I don’t get a commission or kick-back on sales; they put this together as a courtesy for my students), which includes:

Two stands to hold the flashes

  • Two Impact Air-cushioned lightstands to hold your Flash units
  • Two Impact Air-cushioned lightstands to the hold the Trigrip diffusers
  • Two 33″ Trigrip diffusers
  • Two Bogen Clamps to hold the Diffusers
  • Two “Justin Clamps” that let you swivel your flash in any direction using a mini hot-shoe ball head. They rock, and you can remove them from the light stands and mount a flash just about anywhere
  • A 30″ sliver/gold reflector
  • The Impact Boom Arm that holds the reflector

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They sell that kit (shown above), altogether, for $495 (Here’s the direct link). It’s been hugely popular, which makes me wish I was getting a kickback. ;-)

Now, you’d still have to buy your two flash units, and at $310 a piece, you’d be at around $1115 for Nikon users, or $1293 for Canon users plus the $210 wireless transmitter.

(Important Note: it’s very late at night when I’m writing this, so if I were you I’d double-check all my math).

So, that’s it for Day 2 of Lighting Gear Week. Tune in tomorrow when we take it “inside” for some studio lighting. See you then!

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  1. #1

    Great gear suggestions here Scott - with the 550EX and the ST-E2, all I need now is some of the cheaper stuff like the light stand and the umbrella. I was thinking of getting a simple diffuser instead of the umbrella - perhaps you could elaborate on why you’d not use those items as a part of your lighting kit? (The diffuser I was looking at is here)

    Jason on March 11th, 2008 at 4:33 am
  2. #2

    Hi Scott,

    For the Canon people (like me) you suggest the ST-E2 wireless transmitter. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you be better off with the Pocket Wizard transmitters in terms of flexibility and price? That being said I don’t know much about the ST-E2, Pocket Wizard just seems to offer much more, at more or less the same price. Am I completely lost in the woods here or?

    Kasper_dk on March 11th, 2008 at 4:59 am
  3. #3

    Kasper the big difference between the pocket wizards and ST-E2 is that the pocket wizards can only be used in manual mode and the ST-E2 uses your camera’s ETTL. They have there own advantages and disadvantages. I recommend you do a google search as this topic has come up millions of times.

    Great stuff Scott, maybe you can talk about big flash outdoors like the Elinchrom Ranger you use.

    Crash on March 11th, 2008 at 5:38 am
  4. #4

    Hi Scott,

    There are some people who suggest getting an SB-600 over the SB-800. Can you explain why you prefer the SB-800? Is it the greater power? Just wondering, since the SB-600 is almost half the price, and for the budget-conscious hobbyist like myself, that makes a huge difference.
    I really appreciate your blog and all your books and info, and especially NAPP! Thanks, Scott!

    Steve on March 11th, 2008 at 7:28 am
  5. #5

    Oh, by the way, I think B&H is long overdue for giving you some commissions, considering how much business you send their way! Not to mention how much you actually spend there yourself! Tell them to help a brother out!

    Steve on March 11th, 2008 at 7:36 am
  6. #6

    For those of us in the UK, can anyone recommend a B&H-type store as the delivery charges can’t half stack up?!

    As ever Scott, thanks for all the information you provide - your blog is among the first two or three sites I visit every day!

    Rich

    Richard on March 11th, 2008 at 8:07 am
  7. #7

    Rich,

    Do a search for The Flash Centre. I went there last week and they had stands, brollies and the stand adapters there. Very helpful.

    Does anyone remember the link to the video Scott posted last year about using flashes wirelessly with his lighting kit?

    Scott

    Scott Wiggins on March 11th, 2008 at 8:26 am
  8. #8

    As if the SB-800s aren’t already versatile enough, check out page 77 of the press release for the current STS-123 Space Shuttle mission. NASA mounted two slightly modified SB-800s as the light source for imaging the Shuttle’s external tank after it separated from the Orbiter.

    http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/216132main_sts123_press_kit_b.pdf

    Bill M. on March 11th, 2008 at 8:31 am
  9. #9

    Brilliant series (pun intended). I’m really looking forward to the rest of the articles. Thanks so much for taking the time to share this with the rest of us, Scott!

    Trevor Morris on March 11th, 2008 at 8:35 am
  10. #10

    Kasper et al,

    Scott’s blog is a fantastic learning resource, but you should also check out David Hobby’s blog “The Strobist”. Its a very complementary blog.

    The Strobist has a Lighting 101 series of blog entries with one chapter specifically on using pocket wizards with speedlights. In that chapter and through out the series the strobist recommends using speedlights on manual rather than TTL because once the lighting is measured as desired the photographer is then free to move around while the lighting remains unchanging in direction or quantity. Pocket wizards should work great with your speedlights on the condition that you want to use your flashes with manual mode. More here:
    http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101-pc-cords-and-pocket.html

    Then there’s “Radio Poppers” which are light pocket wizards but also have the ability to use TTL. They are currently in production but should be commercially available for purchase any day now according to http://radiopopper.com/ . The cost is shown to be $175 per unit, which is comparable to the Pocket Wizard Plus, and you’ll need two or three of them depending if you use one or two off camera flashes.

    Steven Erat on March 11th, 2008 at 8:50 am
  11. #11

    That was a big noych!
    Wes

    Wes Bigger on March 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
  12. #12

    Man, this series is perfect timing for me, just what I was looking for. I’m shooting with a Canon 6.3MP right now and ready to sell and thinking about upgrading to a Nikon. I’m starting to see some advantages of going to a Nikon, especially with some of lighting gear you’ve pointed out. Why is your preference Nikon? Got any other quick opinions about the overall advantages of Nikon over Canon that could make me feel better about switching? Thanks for taking time, don’t know how you manage it all!

    Juan Hernandez on March 11th, 2008 at 10:36 am
  13. #13

    thanks, scott, for this lighting series. I’m a newbie into photography. I was actually doing some research for my own portable lighting setup. I was already getting overwhelmed and confused by too many options, and this series of yours simplified everything for me. Cheers!

    Steven

    Steven Z. on March 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am
  14. #14

    Scott (W),

    Thanks for the tip about TFC - just what I was looking for. And there’s one in my home town :-)

    Oh dear, I can see things getting expensive…!!

    Richard on March 11th, 2008 at 10:48 am
  15. #15

    Thanks Scott, with this info and your 2 photography books I was getting confused. Then I got The Moment It Clicks and thought wow, I’ll never know where to start!

    I’ll change my “wish list” on B & H to some of these choices!!!

    Do you ever sleep?????? Thanks Scott!!!!
    Dr J

    Dr. David Jones on March 11th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
  16. #16

    Scott,
    I don’t know if you know this but your kit is out of stock at B+H. I hope that they will bring it back as I would like to get it.
    Thanks for all your good insight.

    Jason

    Jason Sliger on March 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
  17. #17

    scott,
    I never miss your blog. Great information and very entertaining. I have the feeling I’m missing something thats very obvious. We have the d300 and one sb800. I have read the manual and checked the nikon websight but I still don’t see the instructions for setting up a wireless flash without another flash or the su800. Am I missing something?
    I ordered the hot shoe adapter from b&h the same day I saw it on the blog. It sure beats duct tape.

    Thanks

    Phil

    Phil

    Phil Garceau on March 11th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
  18. #18

    Scott,

    In this month’s Photoshop User (March 2008), Laurie Excell reviewed the Lastolite Ezybox Hotshoe and gave it a five diamond rating (given the recent mess in New York politics, you may want to change that rating scale to something safer like Cameras or Canadian Maple Leaves, in honor of Mister Cross).

    While this is double the price of the trigrips, do you feel that this is an option for a portable lighting setup like the one you are suggesting?

    Now if we all had as much disposable income to spend on Camera Gear as the New York Governer allegedly spent… Canon 1Ds Mark III’s and Nikon D3’s for everyone!!! :-(

    Alessandro Rosa on March 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
  19. #19

    Hi Scott,

    As it’s been said in previous comments, your timing for this blog series is perfect! I am a pretty new photographer and am trying to set up my studio.

    I have the D300 and the SB800…and for the life of me have not been able to get the SB800 to work wirelessly without using my popup flash on camera. I understand that there are preflashes that need to occur, but I believe my flash is firing even when I’ve “commanded” not to. Can you help???

    Thank you!
    Kim

    Kim O on March 11th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
  20. #20

    Scott,

    I know you’ve probably written this entire series ahead of time (or maybe you’re just that nuts and writing it nightly) but as an aspiring amateur I would be absolutely thrilled if you could put up a few images of your lighting setup for better clarity of layout? For instance, how the 580 EX II’s would shoot through the umbrella, how you’d stage them around a bride while using the reflector for the shadows on the face, etc.

    I know you don’t like drawing those out and your photo of the foot shot was amazingly informative. The problem with your articles is that I don’t have enough money to do nearly any of it. My poor daughter is going to have to figure out college for herself…. just kidding :-)

    Oh, and if I could maybe follow you around for a year and just watch you shoot I’d be glad to be your bag caddy.

    Jeff on March 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
  21. #21

    Scott,

    Thanks! Between your books, NAPP and The Strobist (http://strobist.blogspot.com/), I’m finally “getting it” when it comes to using off-camera flash. I’m hoping part of this lighting series will include gear required for large group shots (85-150 people). Also, when you share your studio lighting equipment, could you provide the effective flash range of your setup(s)?

    Dave

    P.S. Dadgumit, I knew I should’ve gone to the Washington DC Photowalk.

    David Wilkinson on March 11th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
  22. #22

    Hi Scott.

    Talking about lighting gear using flashes on/off the camera, I came across a diffuser called Whaletail a while back, the reviews are very promising - and it’s fairly inexpensive, around $130 for the biggest kit. Have you tested this one, or heard about it?

    http://store.garyfonginc.com/whaletail.html

    Thanks for a great blog, plus all the good stuff at NAPP

    All the best from the western outback of Norway

    Tore Kvalheim on March 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
  23. #23

    Its only one problem with ““The Scott Kelby Location Kit””. The clamps from Manfrotto wont fit to the tripods from Impact in the way Scott is mounting it on the moviefile from B&H-photo. You need some adapter screws. I bought mine from the german company “Hama”. It took me a long time to figure this out….

    Scott please ask B&H-photo to include the adapter screws in the set. That will save a lot of people a lot of trouble… I was really pissed when couldnt mount the set the way you did… I nearly gave up on the project…

    Four inexpensive small adapter-screws …and no I´m happy with the set :)

    Regards from Norway

    Torstein

    Torstein Ihle on March 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
  24. #24

    Hi Scott,

    Quick question: I am about to make an order for some lighting stuff from B&H, but I can’t seem to find a charger on the site for the 2CR5 battery pack that goes in the CANON ST-E2 transmitter. Sorry to bother you with such a petty question, but I figured you would know right away!

    THANKS!

    keep chargin’
    matt

    Matt on March 11th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
  25. #25

    That’s scary… Can anyone confirm that the adapter screws are indeed missing from the package? I would hate to order it and not be able to assemble… Thanks

    Dan on March 11th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
  26. #26

    Hi Torstein and Dan:
    The kit actually does come with two adapters so the Impact stands will fit. They’re small, so they’re easy to miss, but they are included with the kit.

    Thanks,

    -Scott

    Scott on March 11th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
  27. #27

    Scott,

    Great series here. I’ve got a quick request.

    Since you mentioned you” be addressing studio lighting tomorrow, I hope you include a write-up on your TD5 spiderlites continuous lighting set-up with the daylight flourescent bulbs, and how you use it.

    I have a couple of TD5s and I’m not sure I’m using them as efficiently as I could be.

    I’m also particularly interested in how you measure light for a manual exposure, using your sekonic light meter, as you describe in version 2 of the digital photography book.

    regards,

    -Ade

    Ade on March 11th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
  28. #28

    Scott, this is way cool… thanks for doing this.

    ehm..ehm.. could you perhaps put all these goodies in a pdf file sometime after fridays episode of Lighting Gear week, and make it available for download just as you did with your Lightroom book, as a bonus chapter to your Digital Photography II book?

    That would be even “way’er” cool.

    Regards,
    Jan

    Jan Winther on March 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
  29. #29

    As an old commercial shooter I am amazed at the amount of information that comes our way thru your blog and NAPP. Your persistence and energy is boundless. This information is just what many of my would be assistants could have used over and over again. I am a big fan of the “pocket wizards” as the Canon transmitter has to have line of site to the “red” receiver on the EX580. Anyway you are all really amazing and I don’t know how you make it on 3 hrs. sleep. You can’t possibly get more than that and do what you do. Great sidekicks too. Now if you could get Jack Davis and Dewitt Jones to do some classes at Kelby training I would be in heaven.
    Mahalo
    Steve

    Steve Jones on March 12th, 2008 at 12:46 am
  30. #30

    Scott,

    This is brilliant stuff. I shoot only landscapes and it really helps someone like me that has no adea about artifical lightting.

    Thanks again.

    James on March 12th, 2008 at 1:50 am
  31. #31

    Scott, “If you’re a Nikon user and your DSLR has a pop-up flash, you’ll be able use it to wirelessly operate both flash units.” isn’t quite true. I do this all the time on my D70, but the less expensive Nikons (D40, D50), can’t be the master flash — they need a hot shoe flash to trigger remote flashes.

    kevin on March 12th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
  32. #32

    Hey Scott. I just found your website and books a couple of months ago and they have been huge for me as we are just starting to get into photography seriously.

    I have purchased the “Scott Kelby Location Kit” and was wondering if you have an article, video, etc. that would give some starting points to using this set up for portrait and wedding type shots. For instance, when to use one light and a reflector, when to use both lights, maybe some layouts of where to set them up around your subject. Just some starting points. Thanks for all you do to help us out!

    Brian Williams on April 11th, 2008 at 9:39 am

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