The Photo Police Are On The Job
After my sunset shoot of the Burj Al Arab hotel using the wrong lens (posted earlier this week), I was determined to go back and shoot it the following night using the right lens–my brand new 14-24mm f/2.8 lens (The lens was a gift from my book publisher, Peachpit Press, who presented it to me, on stage, at the end of my “7-point system” class at Photoshop World as they announced that for the 4th straight year I was the world’s #1 bestselling computer/technology book author).
Since Jeff Revell and my brother Jeff had been stopped by the hotel’s security during the previous evening’s shoot, “The Jeffs” went to the hotel’s head of security to ask for their permission for us to shoot the hotel at dusk using a tripod. The security chief was very cordial, but asked to see Jeff’s camera, and once he did, he explained that they are very concerned about professional cameras and tripods, because they are trying to protect the image of the hotel and how their image is used or sold.
He went on to say that point-and-shoot cameras were not a problem, but as soon as DSLRs and tripods appear, it becomes a problem, but he was gracious enough to allow us set up and take “five or six photos,” and he gave us his business card, and told us to contact him so we he could give his security staff a heads-up that we would be out there shooting on tripods.
I planned my day around getting back for this “reshoot with the right lens,” but Jeff recommended that I set-up a little short of where they set-up the night before, because that would put a large white tent between me and where the security guards were the night before, so maybe I wouldn’t have to pull out that card after all. As it turned out, I was able to shoot without any intervention from hotel security (at least at this point), so I was able to get the shot I was hoping for (seen above–click for a larger version).
After I packed up my gear, I headed back for the hotel, and while walking over the bridge toward the hotel, I had a perfect straight-on view I hadn’t seen before, so I quickly set-up my tripod, and as soon as I pressed the shutter button once, a security cart appeared, and a security guard, in white Arab robe and head dress appeared (I knew why he was there).
I have to say, he was incredibly friendly and polite. He came right over with a warm friendly smile; and shook my hand as he introduced himself (He treated me more like he was welcoming me to the hotel, rather than telling me I couldn’t shoot it). He calmly and eloquently explained why they couldn’t allow the use of professional cameras and tripods, and he was so friendly and warm, that I didn’t even pull out the “head of security’s” card. I told him I understood, that it was no problem, and I packed up my gear while we were chatting. He thanked me profusely, wished me a nice evening; he got back in his cart, and was gone as quickly as he had appeared.
I wasn’t the least bit upset. In fact, I thought to myself; if all security guards handled these situations in the manner this guard had, you wouldn’t be reading all those stories about photographers getting hassled and abused by overzealous security. I think as photographers most of us understand and respect situations like this, and a little politeness, and professional courtesy, on both sides goes a long way.












Wow, nice shot! Can I buy some prints?
(J/K)
Proud that one of our local gurads treated you in such a polite way Scott. I do respect your understanding too
Ah if only all security people were like that. Unfortunately, giving someone a peaked cap and a job title of “Security Officer” turns some, not all I might add, into idiots. I was going to say something else, but I might’ve been banned for it
Hey Scott, I’m glad you guys had a safe trip to the Middle East. I’ve watched all the Discovery shows on the Dubai area and it does look fabulous. It’s nice to hear that not all security is aggressive. It’s like I always say, just be nice
take care
mike meyer
Looks like some could learn a lot from it and how to handle situations like that.
Scott,
Last year my family and I travelled to your neck of the woods. We had a great time staying a week in Orlando, and a week in Miami. I shot all over the place, including using a tripod, and had no problems anywhere EXCEPT when trying to snap a shot of all the wonderful looking cheesecakes on display in the Cheesecake Factory. The manager flipped out!!! You would have thought I was trying to steal state secrets, maybe he thought I was a competitor who was going to go home and reverse engineer a slice of Baileys Cheesecake???
Beautiful image. It was definitely worth coming back for that perspective. BTW, did you get a property release signed
BEAUTIFUL……sorry to shout, but that shot is awsome…!
This seems to be an issue at concerts as well. You can shoot away with a cellphone camera or a point and shoot but not a DSLR, and for similar reasons as you mentioned.
While I like this shot if I had to choose I’d pick the shot with the (wrong?) longer lens from the previous night.
Nice capture.
Cheers
Nas
Quite a concidence as I was reading this BBC article earlier today which discusses photographers being prevented from taking pictures of public buildings and even in some cases outdoor public events.
Here is the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7351252.stm
It is concerning to me… I appreciate the need for privacy and for security but we leave in a free society (at least in the US and UK).
Cheers,
Dave.
Okay, with comments about the “wrong lens,” I need to ask for some advice. I’m a newbie. I’m just starting to shell out $$ for lenses (oops “glass” - trying to get my lingo down
). I’m looking to purchase one of the 2.8 Nikon lenses, but I’m torn between the 14-24 or the 24-70. I’m afraid I don’t have a good answer to the “what are you shooting?” question, as I photograph everything that crosses my path. I’m leaning toward the 24-70 (I know…36-105 for me) as it seems to be a great all purpose lens (esp. for travel). I do have the kit lens that came with the camera (18-70), but I tend to use the 50/1.8 or 105 macro (my only two other lenses) as they consistently result in much sharper images…even if they’re not the ideal lens for the shot… Am I on the right track, or will I regret not going with the 14-24 for travel photography?
Hey Scott,
Sorry I missed you in Dubai, my day job got in the way. I live near Dubai and have had a few cases where guards or police have asked me not to take pictures, but they have always been very polite to me. Even the military guys in Iran when I took a photo at a train station, not a good idea, but they were very nice and all I had to do was delete the photo.
Scott,
First off I always enjoy your posts, thanks. Second I would if your mono-pod trick you talk about in your first Digital Photography book would work here. Do you think if you where using a mono-pod that they would come up and say anything?
-Scott
I’ll refrain from posting what I think about security personnel in general, but what really gets me here is the uninformed nature of these policies. Somehow, usage of a tripod will cause the image of the building to be used inappropriately, but hand held shots cannot possibly be used this way? Or the idea that a compact camera can’t take a high quality picture… there are several 10 and 12 megapixel cameras with powerful zooms and image stabilization out there that can rival DSLR quality in many situations. Who comes up with these policies?
The truth is, even with security guards buzzing around on golf carts, watch towers, camera, and everything else; no one really has any clue what images are being taken or where they are being used. I’m not here to say that’s good or bad, just seems like an uphill battle perhaps not worth fighting.
Amazing!
This is why we carry the right glass all over the place!
Best Wishes,
Carlo M
While I agree that courtesy goes a long way in convincing others, I’m still frustrated by the idea that people carrying “professional cameras and tripods” are (almost) automatically viewed with suspicion.
What is it about carrying a DSLR tat makes you a threat to others?
While the closeup of the hotel was impressive, I have to admit that this image does grow on you. Nice composition.
Having just been tossed from in front of a well know courthouse in Northern Va. while taking a picture (hand held) of its street sign for a neighboring law firm (client), I find your security incident very interesting. That’s the way I wish mine had gone but did not. I was detained and questioned by a very rude sheriff protecting his turf. Bad enough that I was advised to file a complaint and did. I wish some folks would just simply be nicer. I left with my tail between my legs. It was not fun.
Nice pictures Scott.
Dan from the dcphotoshoot with Jeff
That was a very nice shot… much better than the other one that you mentioned. It looks that you had a good time there. Wellcome back!
Paulo
Hi,
just catching up on my favourite blogs after a trip to New York, and this blog entry resonated with me. I’m finally disciplining myself to use a monopod or tripod, and guess what! It sometimes attracts unwelcome attention. I was trying to shoot using ambient light in New York’s Natural History museum on a monopod, and it was okay for ten minute. Several guides passed me without comment, and I was well out of the thoroughfare. Then one particular guide decided this was not allowed - she had just been telling off a few kids, so maybe she was having a bad day. I instantly obeyed and put the monopod away.
Weirdly using a flash was okay, which I thought would be much more disruptive. I had a similar experience at the top of the Rockefeller Centre, although a flash couldn’t help there!
I can understand that a tripod located somewhere lots of people are trying to pass is an issue, but the monopod wasn’t taking up any extra space. I remember Scott warning about this in one of his books, but this is the first time I’ve encourntered it.
Next time I’ll try to get a “tripod pass” or something. Lots of amazing things in the Natural History Museum.
William
Heya,
Just wanted to add my experience of similar situations here in the Los Angeles area - it is almost impossible to shoot on many recognizable streets or on many beaches with pro looking gear and a tripod without a permit - it’s all about city revenue more than anything. And if you try and shoot bridges and court houses you will most likely be thrown to the floor by law enforcement if you are at all disrespectful to them.
So last year I got an all black Leica M8 with a bad-a** Sumicron 35mm 2.0 lens. Heh. The super stealth machine. I have now shot many commercial jobs in public hand holding this little beauty, generally leaning up against a lamp post etc for stability, and have had security guards and cops walk straight past me without a word.
It’s also affected my style in a good way as now I am always looking for great available light and just use a simple lens selection. It makes me really work for the shot!
Best
Will Henshall
Wow - beautiful - now just imagine taking shots FROM the hotel
Clearly the situation and the cultural aspects forced YOu to accept his demands. Its very easy to understand securitys demands in such a country like Dubai or Saudi-Arabia etc. If You even lightly protestagainst securitys demands You will found Yourself soon from local prison.
You wondered if in western world securities were as polite there would be no such demonstration against those acts…. that’s BS.
In western world people have rights and free speech. So … people give a $hit
what and how securities try to explain the such a situation….people just shouts out : We Have Rights !
Thas a freedom hah