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My Apple Aperture Conspiracy

By Scott on Friday, April 25th, 2008 at 5:54 am | updates.

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“Obviously, since Scott’s in bed with Adobe, there’s no way he’d give Apple’s Aperture a fair audition.” –Trevor Carpenter

“…what about Apple’s Aperture? I don’t see how you can just ignore it when writing this kind of article. If you do, I begin to wonder if you’re simply being paid by Adobe? I understand the whole corporate sponsor thing, but I’d love to see you write about Aperture. It’s definitely a player in this space.” –Mike Fullerton

Ya know what’s nice? Waking up in the morning, and reading comments like these, which were posted yesterday as comments here on my blog. It really starts your day off right.

My post yesterday was addressing a comment I read on an evaluation form, from a Photoshop World Conference attendee. This attendee didn’t ask me about Aperture (he was a PC user anyway, and Aperture is a Mac-only product); he asked the difference between Camera Raw, The Bridge, and Lightroom.

I thought that answering his question publicly, might help some other people who had the same question, but clearly what I was doing was just perpetuating my secret conspiracy against Aperture; the same Aperture I wrote about on Monday in my “Top Five of Everything” where I listed other applications which I use, which included Aperture; the same Aperture I wrote about in February after the 2.0 update was released, where I wrote:

“I haven’t had a chance to play with the new version yet, (I hope to this week), but the improvements look pretty substantial and the initial feedback I’ve seen from existing Aperture users has been very positive.”

Adobe almost made me return my monthly corporate payoff check for writing that. ;-)

So, is this a cleverly orchestrated conspiracy against a program I readily admit that I use, or perhaps is the reason I didn’t mention Aperture in my post one or more of these:

  • (a) I don’t know much about Aperture. The only thing I do in Aperture is print books. I export my photos from Lightroom as JPEGs; I import them into Aperture, layout my book, and hit the Send button. That is the extent of what I do in Aperture, so I can’t pass myself off as an “Aperture expert” and anything I say about Aperture beyond printing books would be just a guess. I’ve played around with Aperture, and it seems to have some very cool features, but honestly, I just don’t know enough about it.
  • (b) This is the Photoshop Insider blog created for people who already use either Adobe Photoshop, Photoshop Lightroom, or both. It’s not a digital imaging blog.
  • (c) Aperture was totally irrelevant to the question I was asked (especially since he’s a PC user).

I haven’t written a comparison of Lightroom vs. Aperture because selling Lightroom isn’t my job—that’s Adobe’s job. My job is teaching Lightroom to people who already own Lightroom (though the fact that I teach and write books on Lightroom pretty much tells you where I stand). Besides, I’m not the guy you want doing a side-by-side comparison of the two; I am totally biased; I’ve already made my choice; I’m a Lightroom user–plain and simple.

I don’t want to take anything away from Aperture, because I know a lot of Mac users really like it, and I think that’s great, but I use Lightroom, so don’t look for much Aperture coverage here. In the same vein, I’m a Nikon shooter, so don’t expect a lot of Sony or Olympus camera coverage here either, even though I’m sure both make perfectly fine cameras. It’s not an indictment of any of them; they’re just not what I use.

I hope that helps folks who post mean-spirited accusations about me understand where I’m coming from in this whole “Lightroom vs. Aperture” conspiracy theory. :)

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  1. #1

    Brilliant Scott, and so say all of us. Although it was well written I fail to understand why you bothered replying at all to those two negative comments - I most certainly wouldn’t have. Ok, so everyones entitled to a point of view, but when that point of view is based upon not having completely read or understood the article to which it is referring to then the pov is meaningless. Blimey, hope I’m not sounding too much as though I’m in the employ of Adobe :-)

    ElliR on April 25th, 2008 at 6:05 am
  2. #2

    Scott,
    you said you are a Nikon shooter… but but but you forgot about all us Canon shooters out there… :) This must be a Canon conspiracy, are you getting paid by Nikon as well? Perhaps Sony and Olympus pay you to advertise their names as well. Infact next you will be telling us how you have moved onto the up and coming Sony Pro full frame camera and an Olympus compact.

    Infact this isn’t even about Photoshop this is all about you obtaining free kit and you should give up writing books about Photoshop and concentrate on arranging flowers, I keep seeing them in your pictures!

    Great Blog, I am an Aperture and Photoshop user, I have LR Beta 2.0 installed which may cause me to rethink. But my point is I do not think you are Biased at all, I think the fact that you even have Aperture and use it for even one function says that you use the best tools for the job, I am sure if Adobe had the same Book functionality built into Lightroom you would use that (to keep from swapping apps).

    Simon on April 25th, 2008 at 6:11 am
  3. #3

    It’s an unfortunate side effect of blogging that no matter what you write you’ll piss some one off. I’ve been an Aperture user from day one and I occassionally dabble in Lightroom, but it never occurred to me for a second that Scott was being unfair to Aperture or Aperture users.

    It’s a funny thing, but the technology industry seems to have developed what I like to call “Highlander Syndrome” in that “there can be only one”. There is no reason that both these programmes can’t co exist happily, just like there’s no reason that there can’t be both xbox and playstation, mac and pc. Why is that if you are seen to support one thing you must hate everything that competes?

    While it would be great for Scott to talk about Aperture, simply because those of us who have a boat load of his books and are habitual viewers of Photoshop TV know how well he can translate geek to human and inject comedy and passion into the learning process would like to see him talk about their chosen platform, just because he doesn’t hardly makes it a conspiracy.

    Thomas Fitzgerald on April 25th, 2008 at 6:30 am
  4. #4

    Good answer Scott… Obviously it would be great to get a definitive review of both Aperture and Lightroom to help those like me who haven’t decided either way yet, but if you don’t have much experience in Aperture there would be no value in it and people would still complain your biased because your clearly a Lightroom user.

    David Queenan on April 25th, 2008 at 6:50 am
  5. #5

    I guess naming the blog PHOTOSHOP INSIDER means nothing? ;)

    Nicely said.

    sharon on April 25th, 2008 at 7:01 am
  6. #6

    That was a good one ;) I’ll make a research on Aperture and see what happens ;) But if you choose Lightroom, well, that’s a great probability that I choose it too, thanks anyway :)

    Estêvã Soares from Brazil on April 25th, 2008 at 7:21 am
  7. #7

    We are behind you Scott, I read your blog daily to get great information about Photoshop, Lightroom and photography in general. Thanks for what you do.

    Mike Moore on April 25th, 2008 at 7:48 am
  8. #8

    As an Aperture user, I find your point perfectly standing. Especially given that if you wrote about every possible raw workflow software, it necessarily would be less insightful and thorough.
    Still, I LOLled a bit about you mentioning Sony and Olympus… but not Canon, in the “makers of fine cameras”. Nikon FTW! :P:P

    Agos on April 25th, 2008 at 7:48 am
  9. #9

    Thanks for the giggles this morning! I’m a die hard Apple user, and I tried Aperture. It was clunky. Could have just been my machine, but Lightroom wasn’t, so I used it. Now I love it. In fact, I’d love it if you talked MORE about Lightroom!

    Stacey Rainer on April 25th, 2008 at 8:01 am
  10. #10

    Well said !!! Great post Scott … well done to you :o)

    From time to time we’ve all seen comments on here from the occasional disgruntled reader complaining that you’ve taken a day off from blogging and such like … I mean, how dare you :o) It’s great to see you getting your point across in no uncertain terms, but with the distinct “Kelby” humour we love :o)

    Good on ya!!!

    Best wishes,
    Glyn

    Glyn Dewis on April 25th, 2008 at 8:12 am
  11. #11

    Scott,
    Blow these two morons off!. Your books got me back into photography a year ago and I am loving it. I value your opinions even if i don’t agree with all of them (but I do). Keep up the great work and ignore the idiots out there.

    Martin Howard on April 25th, 2008 at 8:31 am
  12. #12

    Scott,

    I’m not sure why you have to answer to anyone regarding “your” blog and “your” passions. I know that I’m just grateful you have decided to share your knowledge with us common folk, please, don’t stop.

    And even if you were getting paid by Adobe or Nikon, so what, does that make your vast experience with all things Adobe useless? I think not!

    Once again, thank you Scott for all that you have done for the community.

    Blessing for you and yours,

    Chris

    P.S. Wrong lens at the wrong time…..Ha Ha your funny!

    Chris on April 25th, 2008 at 8:32 am
  13. #13

    Scott ! he has the wrong guy. There is this guy Matt Kloskowski & he has a blog about lightroom.

    Scott Thanks for all that you do & thanks for no blog wednesdays its gives me a day off too… Your Awsome & that guy’s comment Was a Low Blow…

    Jared

    Jared Chapin on April 25th, 2008 at 8:41 am
  14. #14

    Scott,

    Frankly, I don’t care how you make money, as long as it is legal. If you were to be getting kickbacks from Adobe for pushing their product, so be it.

    Customers still have to determine the value of a product on their own and critically think about your reviews and the substance thereof. There are plenty of reviwers and critics out there of product for one to draw a fairly objective conclusion.

    This country is really full of all kinds of whiney people who have too much time on their hands (as I apparently do by even writing this comment) so they have to go after those that they are jealous of since they probably don’t make the money you do or are not in the spotlight as you appear to be.

    Yeah, I wrote you a while back about offering discounts to those providing you suggestions when you use them and in a way, you offered something. It is all business to me and NO WHINING ALLOWED!

    To those who are critical and wearing their feelings on their sleeves in terms of your business, NO CRYING IN BASEBALL=NO CRYING IN BUSINESS!

    Nuff said,
    Pat

    Pat Flanakin on April 25th, 2008 at 8:43 am
  15. #15

    Scott…

    I am a Canon shooter and an Aperture user. There I said it!!! Now I feel better.

    Really…. We all have to make a choice. We put to much time and money into our toys to be an expert on everything. Anyone that has read this blog for any real amount of time must know what it is about. If I want just Aperture info I would read somewhere else.

    Keep it up!!!

    Randy Northcaft on April 25th, 2008 at 8:54 am
  16. #16

    Scott, you’re the man - don’t listen to what two irrational people had to say. If I was well known for my PHOTOSHOP User TV show, and my PHOTOSHOP insider blog, and was PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PHOTOSHOP PROFESSIONALS, I would also hardly mention Aperture (and you’ve never bashed it so I don’t see why they’re so uppity).

    I think I’m going to visit some Ford Mustang blogs and then scoff at the guys (or gals) who write them for being so close-minded by never mention Camaros or Firebirds…

    I really think it should be reiterated that Scott makes a living teaching, and writing about Photoshop. If you want someone to write about Aperture - go find an Aperture blog. Try it. Type ‘aperture blog’ in Google, and you can find someone to talk about Aperture. Just make sure not to be a hypocrite - bash those writers for not talking about Photoshop.

    Besides, everybody knows it’s Nikon that Scott’s in bed with.

    Marlon Kuhnreich on April 25th, 2008 at 9:07 am
  17. #17

    haha, good blog. i’m getting your digital photography books today… thanks for writing them.

    preston on April 25th, 2008 at 9:08 am
  18. #18

    Well said and I think point (b) summarizes everything.

    This is a “Photoshop” blog and if nothing else, your personal website. I don’t expect you and I don’t think anyone else should expect you to write about anything other then what you truly enjoy. That’s what makes this blog special!

    Stephen on April 25th, 2008 at 9:09 am
  19. #19

    Hi Scott,
    Please know that we appreciate your Photoshop blog. You give us terrific information, and we can improve out photography and Photoshop skills because of it.
    Thanks from canyon country,
    Stan

    Stan Burman on April 25th, 2008 at 9:14 am
  20. #20

    Scott,

    I agree with a couple of the other comments here … you needn’t reply conspiracy theories regarding Apple, Adobe, Canon or Nikon. Those guys are the same ones who think the moon landing was staged somewhere in Arizona.

    You did make a comment that caught my attention. You say your books teach people who already own Lightroom. That may be true in most cases but I know of at least one person who uses your books to decide if they need to buy or upgrade a programs like Photoshop or Lightroom. No conspiracy theories, just a consequence of writing great books!

    Roger on April 25th, 2008 at 9:20 am
  21. #21

    Hi Scott,

    Wow, I was gonna bow up and start head butting people for ya, but it looks like I’d have to get in back of a long line! Superb post, man! It was as precise as it was well written. Rock on!

    ~Issac

    Issac on April 25th, 2008 at 9:24 am
  22. #22

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m VERY suspicious of the whole “Electric Cat” angle as well

    ; )

    JBT on April 25th, 2008 at 9:28 am
  23. #23

    Somebody - qick - call in the wambulance!
    Does your lovely wife know you’re “in bed” with Adobe?
    Just ignore the ankle biters Scott - this is YOUR blog for those that are interested. The time you give up to do this is greatly appreciated.

    If you don’t like what you’re reading - click on the big X in the corner of your screen.

    Kendy on April 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
  24. #24

    I have been reading your books for quite a number of years now Scott and all the time you quote things from the Nikon perspective and I know that you have business relations with Nikon too. I’m a Canon user and yet not once have I thought to myself, “Oh, Scott’s in bed with Nikon, so there’s no way he’d give Canon a fair audition.”

    Everyone uses this or that equipment or software. But it doesn’t mean that there is a downer on something else as a result. I use Lightroom myself and I love it to bits. I’m sure that there are a lot of other people who equally love Apple’s Aperture - fair enough.

    But the comments those guys left about you Scott were right out of order and only represent a tiny minority. Don’t take any notice and satisfy yourself with the knowledge that there are a thousands and thousands of us who appreciate the work you do to help us improve our Photoshop and Lightroom skills.

    David on April 25th, 2008 at 9:43 am
  25. #25

    Scott,

    Ignore those who complain… I mean even if you did get kickbacks who cares. We pay for your books and learn from them. We read your blog for free and learn from it. We watch Photoshop User TV for free and learn from it. You give out soo much free insight and information and people have the nerve to complain.. Now if I paid for this site and if it promised an unbiased opinion then maybe I could complain but alas it’s a free site with free info.. WE ALL THANK YOU FOR IT!!

    [JOKE]But man I wish you didn’t hate on Canon soo much it makes me feel bad for shooting with them.. ;)

    Chris on April 25th, 2008 at 9:49 am
  26. #26

    Wow, people really start to see conspirations everywhere. I begin questioning myself why it happens so often that I read complaints like “Yea but aperture is also cool” in Lightroom blogs. Is there some kind of a self - conficende problem with aperture users?

    Maybe I should check out some aperture blogs to see if people are writing about the benefits of Lightroom there. Have anyone of you been doing this?

    Florian on April 25th, 2008 at 9:53 am
  27. #27

    Scott,
    Keep up the great work, I appreciate your honesty. I support you 100%!!

    Scott Smith on April 25th, 2008 at 10:07 am
  28. #28

    That’s funny you got all those mean spirited emails (I’m sure you didn’t think it was funny at the time). They read your Photoshop blog, probably attend your Photoshop seminars, buy your Photoshop Books, and probably watch you on Photoshop User TV as one of the Photoshop Guys and then they complain you don’t talk/review things other than Photoshop.

    Yeah… ok.

    Kinda reminds me of folks who buy a house next to an airport and then complain about all the noise from the aircraft flying overhead.

    Dan on April 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
  29. #29

    I am almost certain that you are also behind 911.
    And didnt I see you on a grassy knoll in Texas

    Thanks
    David

    David Hopkins on April 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am
  30. #30

    As a Mac enthusiast (we have 7 in our house) I bought Aperture on day 1 but as a 60+ year old late-comer to serious photography, I could never figure the program out. If there had been a Scott Kelby Aperture book maybe things would have been different! On the contrary, a day or two tinkering with Lightroom and the lights came on!

    Great blog - we all wish we could respond to our critics with a comeback as succinct as yours! It’s unbelievable to me how much great info you make available free for the taking - and btw I agree with Jared - much as I enjoy your blog thanks for giving us Wednesdays off from sensory overload!

    Carol Parker on April 25th, 2008 at 10:30 am
  31. #31

    It’s a shame that a couple of posts were phrased that way. Aperture is a good product, but it’s not perfect. I’ve used it since before Lightroom came out and I thought the two products were so similar that it wouldn’t behoove me to make a switch.

    While I completely understand that your focus is on Photoshop and related Adobe products, I do see Aperture as a compatible product that integrates with Photoshop. So while I wouldn’t expect to see Aperture training coming out, it may be interesting to see some exploration of that relationship between Aperture and Photoshop. Just a thought.

    William Beem on April 25th, 2008 at 10:38 am
  32. #32

    Hi Scott,

    A lot of people don’t understand the principle of BLOG = FREE SPEACH!!

    I use to have a blog but with those comments showing up, I gave up and just deleted my blog. Mind you it wasn’t important as yours Scott :) But, we always have some people with different kind of view points.

    Keep up the good work, please do :)

    I shoot with Canon and whatever you say for the Nikon, it is really easy to apply to my camera :)

    Cheers,
    Gilles

    Gilles on April 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
  33. #33

    You are a great blogger, Scott, and the Guru in all things Photoshop and I thank you for your inspiring efforts. Remember, the “silent majority” love ya!

    BTW when is your course on portrait workflow going to be available on Kelby Training, please? Are you going to do an online course based on your superb 7 Point System?

    Best wishes,
    Balliolman.

    Balliolman on April 25th, 2008 at 11:00 am
  34. #34

    I will admit, I was in a particularly grouchy mood yesterday. Please forgive me for causing you to need to explain.

    Not only do I NOT believe in any genuine conspiracy, but I really figured that scottkelby.com would be an all inclusive blog, by Scott Kelby. One can title their blog whatever they want. However, The URL isn’t PhotoshopInsider.com, so I assumed this was a more open forum.

    I do legitimately love your writing, blogging and book-form. I also watch your video podcasts too.

    Relax, and know that not all fans must be fanboys.

    Trevor Carpenter on April 25th, 2008 at 11:12 am
  35. #35

    Hi Scott - Not only do I read your blog everyday, but I usually read all the comments too. When I see comments like the ones you wrote about today, I just go “whatever” in my head and skip to the next one.

    Lightroom is on my wish list but I can’t afford it right now. I bought your book instead and am reading it while I save for lightroom. That’s a testiment to your writing/teaching skills!

    Barrie Brewer on April 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am
  36. #36

    Speaking of conspiracy… I am new to photography and have so much to learn. But I have been reading reviews and what photographers use by way of equipment and software. So, thank you for being straight about what you use and why. I have a Nikon (got it for “the glass”?) D80 with an 18-200VR lens. Learning, Learning. My conspiracy questions has to do with NEF vs. DNG and what Nikon takes away. I read somewhere it removes the white balance in conversion (does it take any other information). I’ve read and understand the positives of DNG - love opensource. But I’m not that great of a photographer as it is. I don’t need some company taking away what little I add to a photo. (although maybe it would make the photo better!)

    Daren on April 25th, 2008 at 11:50 am
  37. #37

    Hi Scott!

    I don’t agree with people who say that you are in cahoots with the likes of Adobe and Nikon, just because they send you some gear to try.

    It seems to me that some people are unappreciative of your kindness when they post negative and illl-informed comments like that! I was shocked!

    Just keep doing what you are doing and ignore these crazy narrow-minded people. You use the gear you use because you are used to it, pure and simple! Why would you want to delve in to using other products you don’t normally use, just to please other people? You can’t please everybody!

    Anyway as someone who truly appreciates your warm-heartedness and the things you do, I just bought Vol 2 of your Digital Photography Book on Wednesday night just gone, in which you clearly tell people, not to be thrown by the fact that just because Cannon & Nikon gear is being illustrated, that the techniques can’t be employed using any other brand of camera (which is totally to the contrary of course).

    I think the point I’m trying to put across is that people are getting too hung up with your connections with Adobe & Nikon, and maybe haven’t even listened to epsodes of Scott Shepperd’s Inside Digital Photo Radio Podcast where you have been a guest talking about how you HAVE used Cannon’s gear, and there were things you liked about both companies! That is how it seems to me anyway! You are a ’straight up’ guy Scott, its just a shame how other people always find a way of making an issue about things that are merely trivial at the end of the day - worse things happen at Sea!

    God Bless!

    Paul Guy on April 25th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
  38. #38

    Scott,

    Aperture seems an expensive program to own, just to print books… I’m just saying.

    Ben Brooks on April 25th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
  39. #39

    Hi Scott,

    Please ignore those comments worth nothing!

    I’m a Canon and Linux user, I don’t even use photoshop, but I still love your great blog about your interests, photography and good written books.

    Keep the good work!

    Carlos on April 25th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
  40. #40

    Scott -people are nuts and no matter what you do SOMEONE will be upset - so just keep going your thing and forget about it

    robert on April 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
  41. #41

    I think both Aperture and Lightroom are great products. Competition is good for the users…
    Apple and Aperture could only be so lucky to have a guy like you. They need an evangelist (paid or not) so bad it hurts. I’ve told them that too!

    Ignore the jerks and continue writing for those that matter. I love that you state your opinions and your prefrerences. That’s a big reason why I subscribe. Derek Story for example likes everything… that’s no help to me.

    Scotty on April 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
  42. #42

    BRAVO!!!!!!!
    WELL SAID.

    Carlo M on April 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
  43. #43

    Aperture blogs most definitely have sprinklings of Lightroom envy. As an Aperture user I have it too. Develop presets on import… etc.

    Let’s keep the pressure on Adobe and Apple not to get comfortable and take the consumers for granted.

    Like noted above, competition is good whether the grass on the other side of the fence is greener or not.

    Sam on April 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
  44. #44

    Please don’t let this sort of thing dampen your comments. It’s your honest, blunt, straightforward opinions that make this blog so valuable to your readers.

    Stacy on April 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
  45. #45

    Scott,

    For what its worth, I fell victim to the “conspiracy” - I’m a Aperture to Lightroom Convert because you you and your co-conspirators ! Now my workflow is much simpler.

    Honestly though, competition drives innovation. Apple and Adobe will always try to one-up each other, as will Nikon and Canon so no mater what we all win. I’m a Canon shooter but I LOVE what I see in Nikon right now but I have way too much invested in Canon. So I’ll wait and see what Canon does to compete.

    Keep up the good work.

    Robert on April 25th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
  46. #46

    Arrrrrgh!

    This is making my brain hurt. You know we love you. Group hug.

    Cary on April 25th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
  47. #47

    this is too funny. i can’t believe how many write about some others who wrote that they missed you writing about aperture. what the?

    i personally work with aperture, intensively and know it inside out. and i love it. i compared it with lightroom (v1 and the new beta) and i will stick with aperture. it’s the better solution for me.

    do i now expect you to write about it? on YOUR blog? why would i. did i mention “your” blog?

    i guess, we should all be happy about what you write and all the information you share. we might not always agree with you. but complain? hate mail? outburst? thats funny … and a little bit tragic.

    Stephan on April 25th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
  48. #48

    Wow, what to say after the previous bunch of comments!

    Obviously we all feel very strongly about this and want to let you know that we appreciate the hard work and long hours that you devote to your blog. Like many others I have a number of your books and consider you a very valuable resource in the Digital Photography/Mac world.

    Frank Nunes on April 25th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
  49. #49

    I agree with the points made about competition between Lightroom and Aperture - if only one existed then their creators would become complacent and lazy about their product, but having two in direct competition means they are always on their toes, knowing that taking their eye off the ball could pass a decisive advantage to the opposition.

    The winner of course, overall, is the consumer… :-)

    David on April 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
  50. #50

    Hello Scott,
    If Trevor Scott and Mike Fullerton are such big Aperture fans,how come they read a Photoshop blog?Maybe they secretly use Photoshop/Lightroom but are getting paid by Apple!!!!Blogs are like the TV,if you don’t like it switch channels or turn off!!

    Martin E.Morris on April 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
  51. #51

    Scott! Hoo boy, first of all, I wasn’t expecting such a negative response to what I thought was a simple question. Maybe I didn’t do such a good job writing it. My bad. If you recall, I also said I was a big fan of your work in the same comment (which you didn’t fully quote ;-). I don’t think there is a better photographer writing about photography working today. Second, I apologize if I came across as attacking you. That was not my intention at all and if that’s how I came across I’m sincerely sorry. I also apologize to your other readers.

    I think there are three players in this space: Photoshop, Lightroom, and Aperture (and I use all three). So I think comparing this to Nikon vs Canon is a bit off because photographers can use all three programs easily and simultaneously, but switching between Canon and Nikon is several orders of magnitude more difficult because of the investment in all the gear. We’re talking hundreds of dollars vs thousands of dollars (or tens of thousands), right? Not to mention the physical space the gear takes up. Not really a fair comparison, imo. :-P

    Really, my fantasy here, is to see a new book “Apple’s Aperture Book for Digital Photographers” by Scott Kelby on my shelf. And to read about cool tips and techniques for Aperture on your blog. I would love to see you dive into Aperture like you have with Lightroom. I think everyone would benefit tremendously from this. I know I would.

    Again, I’m a big fan and I really appreciate your work. I have many of your books on my shelf. And I’ll be more careful with my commenting going forward.

    Mike Fullerton on April 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
  52. #52

    Let’s see:

    Photoshop CS for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop CS2 for Digital Photograpers
    Photoshop CS3 for Digital Photogaphers
    7 Pint System for Photoshop cs3
    Lightroom for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop Classic Effects
    Photoshop Channels Book
    Photoshop Elements 6.0 for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop Elements 5.0 for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop Elements 4.0 for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop Elements 3.0 for Digital Photographers
    Photoshop CS Killer Tips
    Photoshop 7 Down and Dirty Tricks
    Photoshop 6 Down and Dirty Tricks
    Photoshop 5 Down and Dirty Tricks
    I could go on and on and on…

    Yeah, a blog post on Photoshop Insider that doesn’t feature Apple Aperture after this history - good lord! The guys must live in caves…next thing you know they’ll be claiming the Catholic church needs to cross-preach in Jewish!

    It’s not like your secretive about what software preferences you have. I wonder what my gear preferences are on www.canonblogger.com? Could it be that I am not giving Sony, Olympus, Nikon and the rest equal time? Scott, you needn’t reduce yourself to even respond to such charges. They just aren’t worth the energy.

    Having said that - I do like your response! :)

    Jason on April 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
  53. #53

    Wow, why so many negative people out there?
    Their photos must not be coming out good!?
    Keep up the great work, the majority of us appreciate it!

    Stefan on April 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
  54. #54

    Bravo!

    Ryan J on April 25th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
  55. #55

    Hi Scott,

    I got into photography several years ago, but never knew what to do with my images until I went to a seminar in Dallas Texas in December of 2006, which time I joined NAPP. The tutorials that I have seen and soaked up from your organization are very masterfully done. People tell me that I am good. I think I suck. When Matt told me in Vegas last September that we all have “I suck moments”, I realized that I wasn’t alone and that maybe I do have some creativity.

    Regardless, I owe most of what I have learned about Photoshop and photography from you guys.

    If I wasn’t going to Hawaii in August with Matt & Dave, I would have joined you in Orlando and in Vegas, but I’ve been to both of them and Hawaii has always been a dream.

    Thank you and yours for your motivation and tutorials. Everyone else is just jealous of your success.

    See ya,

    Mike

    Mike on April 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
  56. #56

    Dear Scott !!
    I don’t see the name Photoshop anywhere in the name Lightroom….
    So why in the world are you pushing Lightroom down our throats…. maybe it is that Lightroom works seamlessly with Photoshop, just like all the other Adobe products…. and also, most, if not all Adobe products will cross platform….. don’t get me wrong, I was a die hard windows user until Vista… and now have more Mac’s than PC’s. I love my macs and their software but I don’t expect apple to do everything the best…. admittedly Apple is a hardware company, do they make good software, yes they do…. but Adobe is a Imaging software company and they do that better than Apple, Microsoft and a whole lot of others….. KEEP THE FAITH BROTHER!!!!!!

    Charlie on April 25th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
  57. #57

    Very well put….I actually use both. I think (like all apple products) aperture is just slightly more intuitive, however lightroom has strong editing tools in side the program. For instance I tried out your Dave Hill tutorial you had up a few weeks ago and while it worked perfectly in Lightroom it was a definate no go with Aperture. Now that Lightroom 2 beta has come im a complete fan of that but I will still use Aperture 2 just its easier for my workflow and I can organize it better. I have tried Lightroom and just like everybody else…..its all about preference. Honestly, my preference is both. Lightroom for the unbelievable print module and unbelievably powerful editing tools. Aperture is still my main program for standard work flow and simple light, exposure, hightlight and darks fixes…..ect.

    Michael Victorick on April 25th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
  58. #58

    Your post made perfect sense to me. You were answering a specific question.

    If question had included Aperture I’m sure you’d have included that in the answer.

    As always, thanks for all that you do.

    Damian P. Gadal on April 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
  59. #59

    Scott,

    As a new reader,I thoroughly appreciate your blog, great information, and insights on Photoshop. Hmmm….I think that’s why I popped by here in the first place. Probably had something to do with all of your books I’ve been reading….just wanted some more great information on Photoshop & Lightroom…..

    Photoshop Insider, right?

    As a long time blogger I can say you get these kind of comments here and there. I filter, sort, and sometimes remove comments. Occasionally, I answer them as well (the ones that really set me off). :) Those are usually the “fun” answers!

    Thanks so much for the blog, and for your books. I recommend them to everyone who asks about my photos and tech work. Keep it up!

    Rich C on April 25th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
  60. #60

    well put Scott. love your style. Pinache must be your middle name. Really appreciate all the work here at the blog, read it daily(except for Wednesday as we double read Thursdays). All the best to you, your family and to those that impacted making you, you.

    cheers,

    T Gibson on April 26th, 2008 at 12:32 am
  61. #61

    Scott, you are my hero. Thanks for pointing out some of the silly things people do and say. I work in retail (hate it) and deal with it all the time. I use Lightroom simply because my powerbook is only a 1ghz G4, so Aperture is not an option for me, I would like to try it but oh well.

    Someone complaining about you writing about 98% Lightroom is like someone walking in to a Apple store to complain about their Sony walkman. It’s just stupid.

    Scott, you keep up the fantastic work, and keep doing what you do.

    Shawn R

    Shawn Rundblade on April 26th, 2008 at 9:21 am
  62. #62

    If I may allow me to be devil’s advocate, the poor guy just didn’t quite know how to express himself what he probably meant to say is: Dear Scott, since you always* give your advise to all your readers we would like to know what you think about Aperture

    *except when it involves your corporate check with Adobe ;)

    we sort of really would.

    Noe Herrera on April 26th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
  63. #63

    Hey Scott…
    Sorry for the all your troubles.
    I had a similar problem a month ago, when I wrote about a bad experience with SPIRIT airlines, and some of my readers didn’t agree with my point of view.
    Anyway… Great post.
    Paulo

    Paulo Jordao on April 26th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
  64. #64

    Scott,
    People like this don’t really deserve your time sending the justification as they are the usual 1% who spoil things for the masses. As many posts have said everything connected to yourself has Photoshop attached to it so it’s natural that you are blogging about PS products. I find your writing funny informative and above all honest. As a reader of your web stuff and buyer of 3 of your excellent books I’m very gratefull to you for your contribution to my digital imaging education. At the end of the day we’re all adults (well most of us anyway) and if you say this is good that is great we don’t all rush out and buy it because the great Scott Kelby says we should. What most of us do is have a look and compare with other similar products and then decide which is best for our particular need. If you were on a kickback from Adobe I’d be in the camp that said you deserve it but as I feel you’re an up front honest guy who says he’s not holidaying in Adobe’s luxury villa in Hawaii for free then I believe you.
    One last point I REALLY want the Really Right Stuff ball head you tell us to buy in your book (those free Merc SL’s drive well don’t they?) but my wife would rather spend the money on a holiday. If you could give me some pointers as to how I convince her otherwise I’d be most gratefull and who knows they may upgrade you to a Bentley! :-))
    Cheers,
    Phil.

    Phil Walker on April 27th, 2008 at 7:35 am
  65. #65

    I concur with so many others that have already commented Scott. I am also a blog author and some of the comments I receive also fail to see the big picture (or even pay attention to the actual post).

    Especially in the case of your blog, for every two comments like that, there are hundreds from people that do pay attention and take away great key learnings from the things you talk about.

    Thanks for all you do!

    Kris on April 27th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
  66. #66

    This is for Charlie in post #56 who said, “I don’t see the name Photoshop anywhere in the name Lightroom….” I triple read your post to make sure you weren’t just being sarcastic, and I don’t think you were, so I feel I need to tell you something…

    The official name of the product is ADOBE PHOTOSHOP LIGHTROOM.

    You seem like a really good guy and I just felt you needed to know that before you posted that same statement in some other forum and it was followed by a hundred posts calling you a dumbass or some other mean characterization. You’re amongst friends here on Scott’s blog, so it’s OK! :-)

    Rod Harlan on April 28th, 2008 at 12:50 am
  67. #67

    Just wanted to say thanks for all that you do put out for free Scott, I have learnt a lot from this and Matt’s site. I made my choice of product long ago and then searched out info on the Web, finding both your sites.

    I now own The 7 point system, Digital Photography 1 & 2, your lightroom book, your channels book, ‘The Moment it Clicks’ and Dave Cross’ Photoshop finishing touches book. I also joined NAPP (and I am thinking about Kelby training and Matt’s Layer’s book).

    Have you done well out of this? Not as well as me! The progression in my photography and post processing work over the last couple of years is startling. I realised this, just the other day when looking for an old photo.

    Pretty much everything I have learnt has basically come from your ‘crew’ or from a Nikon Forum I read (www.nikon1d.net)

    Thanks for everything and please keep it up! And as they said in Rome Noli illegitimi carborundum!

    Richard Whetton on April 28th, 2008 at 1:53 am
  68. #68

    Although after 60+ posts here…you don’t really need another. But reminds me of a PS class I taught where a student kept chiming in about how iPhoto was so much easier to use than PS.

    keith on April 28th, 2008 at 10:18 am
  69. #69

    I’m sure by now, with all the other supportive comments people have made you don’t need another one letting you know that you do an awesome job not only with this blog, but in all that you do for the photoshop user community; but I thought I’d drop a line anyway. You rock! I find your blogs, books, and video training very helpful and inspiring. Thank you for helping me be a better Photoshop user.

    Christina on April 28th, 2008 at 10:20 am
  70. #70

    Scott,

    You SHOULD be getting a paycheck from Adobe - your incredible books are the best instructions out there, and make using these products a breeze. The Apple folks should find their own uber-instructor… :)

    Sean on April 28th, 2008 at 11:07 am
  71. #71

    ANSWER TO ROD

    I was being sarcastic, The fact of the matter I saw Scott about four years
    ago in Washington D.C., this actually changed my life. I’m a Print Shop Production Manager that hates his job, since then, I have become a Pro Photographer, Photo Restorer, to the point this now competes with my Print Shop duties. I LOVE everything SCOTT KELBY, PERIOD!! I read his books, watch his videos, have been to Photoshop World and plan to go again, maybe this year (if I’m not to busy on a shoot), read his blog. I think your barking up the wrong tree, fido!!
    SO that there is no misunderstanding Scot Kelby is my HERO, I am starting my second career because of his inspiration……. I might be a dumbass, but with a second career, that I love…….

    THANK YOU SCOTT KELBY for being SCOTT KELBY

    Charlie on April 29th, 2008 at 5:19 am
  72. #72

    Scott - Great! Well put! thanks SO MUCH for all you do!

    big cheeser on April 29th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
  73. #73

    Scott,

    You said you use Aperture for printing books. Does it do anything with regard to printing books better than iPhoto does? It appears from the Apple website that the two are equivalent in this regard. I’m using iPhoto currently, but I’d consider purchasing Aperture if there’s a benefit I’m missing out on in the book-printing department.

    Thanks in advance,
    Phill

    Phill on April 29th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

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