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My Photo and Computer Back-up Strategy

By Scott on Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 at 5:44 am | updates.

Friday’s post about backing up your computer really struck a chord with a lot of readers, and I got a number of comments, and emails, asking if I would share my back-up strategy (which drives I use, how and when I back-up, etc.), so….here we go!

1. Backing Up My Photos On-Location
You only have to have a memory card fail once to become a freak about backing up your photos on location, so I might sound a little overly cautious, but its only because I’ve been burned. Here’s what I do:

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Once I fill a memory card (and by the way; I don’t shoot until every last shot is used because of card-corruption horror stories I’ve heard, so I stop one or two short of how many how camera says I have left), I pop the card out of my camera into an Epson P-5000 (link). This is a hard drive/photo viewer that works brilliantly, and has never once failed me, and it has a Compact Flash and Smart Card slots right on the top.

It’s not fast at backing up, but once backed up, you can see your photos on a HUGE 4″ crisp color screen. By the way, you can use an 80GB P-5000 (shown above), or the smaller 40GB P-3000; both work great. You can even use an older P-4000 or P-2000; they’re just much slower, but still do the main job, which is backing up your photos, and then displaying them on a nice big hand-held display.

After the card is copied onto the P-5000, I eject the card and put it back in my hard-shell memory card case, but I flip it over and put it in the case back back-side facing outward, so I know this card is full and has only been backed up once (I don’t feel comfortable erasing a memory card until I know it’s backed up at least twice).

2. Backing Up Once I Reach My Laptop
Once I get back to my laptop (which is sometimes in the car, or sometimes on a table in the studio, if I’m not already shooting tethered) rather than storing the images on my laptop (which has limited hard drive space) I now save my photos to two (2) OWC Mercury On-The-Go high-speed portable hard drives, which I stack one-on-top of the other, and rubberband together (see the crude snapshot below taken in my kitchen).

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I connect one to my Laptop using a Firewire 800 cable, and the other using a Firewire 400 (IEEE 1394) cable, then I then eject the card from the camera and connect my memory card to my laptop (using USB 2.0) and then I import the photos into Lightroom, with the main photos going on one drive, and an automatic back-up going to the 2nd drive. (Here’s the link to those drives).

By the way; I switched to these OWC drives because everybody’s raving about their reliability, and since in the past year I’ve had two other drives die on me (one of which was unrecoverable, even by the amazing Paul Wilder, but luckily I had a backup of my backup), so I thought I’d better start looking for a more reliable solution. Once I’ve got copies on these two drives, I can reformat my memory card in my camera and start shooting with that card again, knowing I’ve got two backups.

3. At Home Backup
At home I have my main desktop computer which I use strictly for my photography (no email, no fonts, no Word documents—a totally clean machine!). I have a partitioned 1 Terabyte drive for my working photo collection, but every single photo gets backed up to my Drobo Robotic Backup drive, which I dearly love (here’s the link).

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Knowing that Drobo is constantly monitoring the health of my hard drives is paramount to me, because I can’t tell you how many people I know have had to reach for a backup drive only to find out that their back-up is dead. My Drobo makes sure that doesn’t happen. Plus, last week I wanted to add more hard drive space, so I just ejected a 360 GB drive, and popped in a new 1 Terabyte drive, in 15 seconds, and Drobo managed all my data automatically. I just so dig it.

4. Off Site Backup
I got a second Drobo for my office, so my entire photo collection is backed up not just at home, but offsite at my office as well. This is handy for me, too because I can access my entire collection both at work and at home. I move photos between home and the office using the two OWC hard drives.
5. Backing Up My Laptop
I do most of my day-to-day work on an Apple MacBook Pro, and I keep my most recent photo work on there as well. When Apple introduced Mac OS X Leopard, I immediately started using the excellent Time Machine built-in back-up software, and it works really, really well, with no other input from you, except remembering to connect an external hard drive to your laptop. But that’s where my problem came in; I would go days without remembering to plug-in that darn external hard drive. One day a message came up that it had been 10-days since I backed up, and I thought, “What if I I had crashed during the week?”

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That’s when I ordered Apple’s Time Capsule, (shown above; photo courtesy of Apple), which does totally wireless backup, completely automatically, every time you’re on your laptop. It’s absolutely fan-friggin’ tastic! In fact, it’s backing up as I write this, and my latest backup is less than 1 hour old, so if my hard drive froze this instant, I would only lose my last hour’s work.

I have to say, this wireless back-up is absolutely, positively brilliant, and now I couldn’t get along without it. You don’t even know it’s happening, but you’re always, always backed up. Plus, it comes with it’s own built-in wireless network, so all you have to do is connect it to a high-speed modem, and it does the rest, all without you having to do anything. Ever! My hats off to Apple on this—it works just like you always hoped one day it would. (here’s the link)

Now, if you’re wondering, “Can’t I use that for backing up all my photos?” Well, I guess you could, but since it all moves over wireless (and you can get the 1 Terabyte Time Capsule for $499, including the built-in Airport Wireless unit) it’s pretty slow compared to even USB 2.0 (well, it would be slow for backing up 8GB from a shoot, plus it only backs up while your computer is awake, so when it goes to sleep, it stops backing up).

What I do like is; all the photos on my laptop are backed up, along with everything else (all my apps, email, documents—everything!), which definitely helps me sleep at night. I have both my wife’s and my laptops backed up to it, and it’s the first time in years we both have a recent backup. I can’t recommend it enough, BUT for the long time archiving of photos, I would still recommend something like a Drobo.

That’s the scoop
Now, all that being said; it’s not as complicated a strategy as it sounds. My basic strategy is this:

  • Never erase a memory card until you have two backups
  • I backup in the field to an Epson P-5000; that way I have one backup on a hard drive, and the original photos still on my memory card, which I put back in my memory card case.
  • When you import photos onto your laptop (like into Lightroom), make sure you have a backup of your photos on an external drive as well (or two drives in my case, because I don’t store all my photos on my laptop)
  • Make sure your main photo library is backed up someplace that’s 100% safe and secure, because there is no replacing those original digital negatives (for me, that place is a Drobo).
  • Don’t forget to have an offsite duplicate backup (in my case, it’s another Drobo, but it can also be just a large external drive sitting in your safe deposit box, or at work, but you have no way of knowing that, should you need that backup, it will work, which is why I have 2nd Drobo).

One last thing about Drobo; I’ve heard people ding Drobo for only having a USB 2.0 connection, and if Drobo were my main working drive, that might be an issue, but I think of the Drobo as an archival drive; a place to store my negatives (not my working files), that is constantly monitored to make sure it’s always 100% safe, and the Drobo does that for me, totally automated, without any input from me, quite brilliantly. If they add Firewire, it still won’t be my working drive, it’ll just back up a little faster. (Besides, I like singing, “Drobo-Arigato, Mr. Roboto–Drobo [Drobo]. Drobo [Drobo]”. Seriously, they should license that song for a TV spot. But I digress.

Well, there you have it. I hope this helps you in putting together a strategy for your own backups, but the most important thing isn’t the brand you use, or how many drives you use; it’s that you start doing it. Just read the horror stories my readers posted on last Friday post, and if that doesn’t scare you into backing up, then you’ll just have to wait until it happens to you.

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  1. #1

    I would highly recommend Windows Home Server. It takes backup each day without you noticing. It can even wake up the machines to do a backup, then put them back to sleep. And in addition you have file shares and remote access. It’s brilliant!


    Christer

    Christer on May 27th, 2008 at 6:24 am
  2. #2

    What I keep wondering is if it is possible to have two “connections” to Time Machine drives; ie can I use Time Machine to backup to a Drobo at home and one at work, to keep an off-site backup?

    The blogpost below seems to indicate that this is possible, but before I go buying drives, can anyone confirm this?
    http://tinyurl.com/29gx75

    Sander Rijken on May 27th, 2008 at 6:26 am
  3. #3

    Yesterday I came across something that may be relevevant to this, an ext. hard drive enclosure for 2 notebook drives that mirrors ones data, if you so desire.
    Handy for when traveling. Though you still may need to keep another copy separate in case of theft/accident etc

    http://www.span.com/catalog/redirect_header.php?url=http://www.acard.com%2Fenglish%2Ffb01-product.jsp%3Fprod_no%3DARS-2212%26type1_title%3DRAID%2520Controller%26idno_no%3D230

    imajes on May 27th, 2008 at 6:39 am
  4. #4

    I also have Windows Home Server and I bought it in preference to the Drobo, due to the speed issues and because MS are likely to be around longer. With the data on a Drobo being proprietry, I believe only they can get your info off in case Machine goes wonky.
    Though I hve discovered a major problem with WHS, it doesn’t appear to work with a Mac for back up , which is very, very, very annoying. As it was meant to work with Macs and PCs.

    imajes on May 27th, 2008 at 7:29 am
  5. #5

    I like your multiple back-up strategy. I am obsessed with back-up, so I do something similar. But I add one more step - burn all my photos to two DVDs, storing them offsite.
    I know you like Drobo, but basically it is still a hard drive storage, and hard drives all fail eventually. And, I guess, DVDs will fail too, but having them soothes my soul somewhat.

    Howard on May 27th, 2008 at 7:38 am
  6. #6

    I’m buying a DROBO today! Thanks Scott.

    Crash

    Crash on May 27th, 2008 at 7:43 am
  7. #7

    I’m with you Howard, ALL hard drives fail. In the field I use my trusty (no longer in production) RoadStor which burns CDs directly from cards. When I get back to the desk, they go to DVD and hard drive.

    They’re everywhere! They’re everywhere!

    Earl on May 27th, 2008 at 7:46 am
  8. #8

    The on-site backup is something I don’t do yet… and as I travel regularly that seems like a neat idea.
    What I wonder is whether it backs up RAW as well as JPG, i.e. is it designed as a backup device or is it designed as a picture viewer (in which case it might only copy JPG?).

    Mike on May 27th, 2008 at 7:48 am
  9. #9

    Hello Scott,
    Fine note! Just one more thing: What about your Lightroom (or Aperture) library? Also on the Drobo?
    Regards
    Chris (A French photographer)

    tofman on May 27th, 2008 at 7:58 am
  10. #10

    How often do you get your data to your off-site storage? I have a hard drive that lives at my friend’s house and gets updated every few weeks (or right after a big project). But I’d like something that happens automatically, and more often.

    Janine

    Janine Smith on May 27th, 2008 at 8:16 am
  11. #11

    I have a question on your ‘don’t shoot until full’ policy.

    I’ve found that on my 5D that it’s pretty bad about knowing when it’s full. Usually I hover around ‘10 left’ for about 15 - 20 shots.

    Any idea what I’m doing that causes that? I shoot RAW only.

    Tom Boucher on May 27th, 2008 at 9:09 am
  12. #12

    Thanks for that Scott, interesting.

    NIKON D3 DUAL CF CARDS - For those that may not know, the D3 has dual CF card ability. This can be used in a variety of different ways, but the ability of the photographer to back up all shots from one card to the other as you shoot may well be of interest to some and in particular wedding photographers! I have never heard of a CF card corrupting but for those with a D3 it would seem to make sense to back up “in camera”.

    For those (like me) that backup on external hard drives and then archive them once full, it may be worth noting that these drives should be “spun up” on a regular basis as the mechanical components can degrade over time. Running the drives perhaps weekly will help avoid this.

    A question earlier about LR catalogue and Aperture library backups. Well Time Machine backups up everything on the drive so the LR cat. and Ap. Lib. are backed up anyway. But I also backup up manually in LR and via the vault in Aperture. (I use both LR & Aperture) to alternative HD`s and DVD`s.

    Anyone have further thoughts on archived Hard Drives and LR/Aperture Lib/Cat backup?

    Regards.

    Nick
    ENGLAND

    Nick on May 27th, 2008 at 9:17 am
  13. #13

    Scott:

    When doyou delete the photos stored to the P-5000, or do you also transfer them in the RAW state to some other drive separately? I am always concerned of having too many duplicate copies of the same information, or worse, working on one file, and then finding the duplicate file that I have not worked on. I would rather ingest once with Metadata, but am, like you, very cautious to erase anything until I have saved it in multiple locations.

    Thanks.

    Bill

    Bill Bogle, Jr. on May 27th, 2008 at 9:23 am
  14. #14

    Since I don’t have an offsite office location I rented a safe deposit box from my bank. For about 50 dollars a year I get a secure, dark, somewhat climate controlled and fire resistant location.

    I back everything up to an external HD for home use and then I use Archival DVD’s for the off site storage

    boj on May 27th, 2008 at 9:26 am
  15. #15

    Thanks for adding your strategy. I put together a long post on backing up a few weeks ago after a good friend and well known blogger lost everything as they’d never backed up. Shocking but true.

    I’ll have to look into the Drobo. I had a very old backup drive fail recently. Fortunately it wasn’t the primary backup drive, it was secondary and all my photos were also on a set of DVDs to boot. Protect that data.

    Rich C on May 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
  16. #16

    Thanks for sharing, Scott.

    I picked up a Lacie Rugged drive last Christmas (mostly because you gave it rave reviews) and I notice it’s not part of the back-up plan. Is it a “work-in-progress” drive for you or have you replaced it with your OWC drives?

    (just curious where it comes into the picture)

    Thanks,
    -Ryan J

    Ryan J on May 27th, 2008 at 10:48 am
  17. #17

    What are some good brands of archival DVDs at a reasonable price?

    Billy Chase on May 27th, 2008 at 10:52 am
  18. #18

    Cool, I’m flagging this one for a full read later. I love hearing about a good backup system in action.

    Gav

    Seim Effects on May 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
  19. #19

    The OWC drives are rock solid and some of the best drives you can buy today. They use high end Hitachi drives and great I/O. I just bought a desktop version to back up my 3 macs using time machine (I manually move the drive around) to ensure I have at least have one backup of everything before my main hard drives fail.

    Kdraks on May 27th, 2008 at 11:32 am
  20. #20

    Scott:

    I am trying to develop a filing system for my DVD’s that I use to store all my photos on. Can you recommend on your blog how you retrieve a specific or group of photos from your DVD backups without having to spend hours searching thru your DVD collections? Do you use contact sheets or photo albums that redirect you to the specific DVD?
    Thanks.

    Democritus on May 27th, 2008 at 11:34 am
  21. #21

    Thank you. I love you. :)

    Penny on May 27th, 2008 at 11:54 am
  22. #22

    I am curious why you don’t daisy-chain your two drives together (with one drive into the computer and the second drive plugged into the first). You could then get FW800 speed from both drives.

    Have you thought about using Disk Utility to set the two drives up as RAID1?

    Eric on May 27th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
  23. #23

    Hi Scott!

    Thanks for sharing your backup strategy with us.

    I was very surprised to learn that memory cards can fail if you totally fill them up, I’ll take care from now on not to do that if I can help it, though saying that, I actually haven’t had a memory card fail on me yet regardless!

    Having a second backup drive really helps me too, but I’ve had to use that backup drive as my main boot drive at the moment, which is a brand new LaCie 500GB because my other drive is in need of repair, but rest assured I will be going back to using that other drive when it is fixed. In the mean time, I’m backing up onto DVD.

    Thanks again Scott! Oh and by the way, how is your wife getting along with her cookery?

    Paul Guy on May 27th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
  24. #24

    hi there. thanks for the update. i was using your old back up system :-). i second the question about the dvds - how, how to organize, what dvds to use, etc.

    I added it up and with one drobo, it came to about $2200. more for the shopping list!

    dana on May 27th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
  25. #25

    One option is the online service mozy.com. They have both PC and Mac products and you get unlimited space for $5 per month. I use it for my home PC and it works great. When my HD did crash, I was able to request an email from them of my most important files.

    Nick on May 27th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
  26. #26

    Scott,

    Great article. Though you may say that the photo of your mercury drives is “crude”, I find it funny that you still used the “rule of thirds” and have good depth of field there!! Nice!!

    Bill Boehm on May 27th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
  27. #27

    I have to second #19’s request about an organizational strategy. I work at a university and we can not find a solution to find photos between designer and photographers. I’d be interested in hearing anybody’s solution on this.

    Thanks,
    Billy

    Billy Chase on May 27th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
  28. #28

    Hi Scott.
    I really enjoy reading your blog each day. It is the 1st one I go to each day and it sets my learning adventure for the rest of the day.

    On backups, how important is it to backup Lightroom preview files contained within the .lrdat folder?

    And how about a trip to Toronto one of these days. I’d love to get to one of your sessions here in Canada!!

    Keep up the fantastic work!!
    …..Brent

    Brent Brook-Allred on May 27th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
  29. #29

    Wow. That’s about $2,500 worth of backup. That’s a lot for the average hobby photographer. This just proves that there is no good affordable long term solution for back-up. What happens when the Drobo is full. Tow more Drobo’s at $500.00 plus drives? Nothing against Scott. There is just no good long term solution.

    Craig on May 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
  30. #30

    I use Time Machine to back up to an external hard drive.

    But for my parents, who don’t want a lot of clutter and are not computer geniuses, I subscribed to Carbonite online backup service. It’s something like $50 a year for unlimited data backup. Carbonite is working on a Mac client, which I will likely use once it is available. Mozy has both Windows and Mac clients.

    Mike Zupan on May 27th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
  31. #31

    I smiled when i read “just a crude snapshot in my kitchen”. Dude, your crude snapshots still look better than most people’s “photographs”.

    Claudius Coenen on May 27th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
  32. #32

    I can definately agree with you on the Drobo, however I use it as my primary storage for all my photographs (in Lightroom of course) and have never noticed any major slow downs even if it is “only USB 2″

    I love my Drobo!

    Ed O'Keeffe on May 27th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
  33. #33

    Responding to Craig’s concern about cost, with backup even something simple and inexpensive is way better than nothing. These days a 500 GB hard disk is about $100 and an external USB 2.0 enclosure is perhaps $30 to $40 at most. I keep one at home and one at work. The one at home gets updated more often of course.

    Also the online services (Mike references Carbonite above) are pretty low cost alternatives.

    Kurt Shoens on May 27th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
  34. #34

    Scott,

    Great information.

    You and the NAPP crew are always giving us great things to check out, I thought you may like this. If you get a chance watch this video by Dewitt Jones. He is a Photojournalist with Nat G. It’s worth teh 20 min.

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=28163893

    Joe

    Joe Tringali on May 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
  35. #35

    “I import the photos into Lightroom, with the main photos going on one drive, and an automatic back-up going to the 2nd drive”.

    Do you mean that lightroom does the back-up for you or do you use some other solution?

    bymannan on May 28th, 2008 at 1:55 am
  36. #36

    Hi,
    great note Scott. With reference to the Drobo and speed issues, I actually do run my drobo as a main drive on USB 2.0. I’ve loaded my Vista box with 4G of RAM (I know it only uses 3.5G grrr), and it works okay most of the time.
    The only occasion I have an issue is when iTunes downloads podcasts, and then iTunes freezes until the downloads are done. This is annoying though, and I might make the drobo backup for music etc. Photoshop and Lightroom works well though.

    William

    William Murphy on May 28th, 2008 at 2:57 am
  37. #37

    I would second the Mozy recommendation. My photo collection is somewhere around 30GB and once the initial upload (6 days) was complete my machine is automatically updated EVERY night. There is no button to hit or procedure to go thru it is scheduled to run at 1:00am each day. For a pro who has hundreds of gigabytes this might not be the best solution but for the amateur that does not have the resources for a more expensive solution it is a great way to go

    Mike Moore on May 28th, 2008 at 8:12 am
  38. #38

    Drobo is a very good looking system, but it uses it’s own proprietary system. when the Drobo will crash how will you recover?

    http://foto-biz.com/doku.php/blog:drobo

    Syv Ritch on May 28th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
  39. #39

    Great post, Scot (as usual).

    For those who have commented on the cost of backup solutions, there is really only one question: how much is your data worth to you? I have had three hard drives fail in the past year alone. Fortunately, all three were components of three separate RAID5 arrays (two on linux servers at home, one in my office) and so no data was lost; that’s why I use RAID so much!

    I do have one question though: why not use the Drobo as your TimeMachine drive? That way, you have the backup of your entire system, not just your photos, protected by the Drobo? With the TimeCapsure, your system backup remains vulnerable to the failure of a single disk.

    My current “solution” consists of two 1TB drives in my PowerMac running as software RAID1 mirrored and a third 1TB int he PowerMac as the TimeMachine backup drive. I am currently an Aperture user, and I backup to two vaults, each on a separate 160GB USB drive.

    I’m contemplating a move to Lightroom, and then I will use LR’s great feature of automatically backing up during import to createa dupicate on a USB drive, and also backup the catalog to that drive with each startup as well.

    You convinced me to buy a Drobo, which I’ve been thinking about since it was first released, but could never convince myself to buy. It shipped earlier today from B&H, and my game plan is to load it up with the 1TB TimeMachine drive from the PowerMac and two other 500GB drives currently in a firewire enclosure, and use that for TimeMachine, which I hope will make me feel moer secure!

    Like some of the other posters, I also burn every import session to two CDs or DVDs (depending on size) before I do anything other than file naming and import keywording. I never erase a CF card until after both DVDs have been burned.

    Lastly: I _have_ had a CF card die on my. I never fill a CF card during an important shoot, so during a wedding last year my wife and I had about 800 exposures over 4 cards. During import, my MacBookPro crashed (the only crash it has actually ever had, go figure) and after reboot, the card that was in the process of being imported could not be read or even mounted on the Mac. All the exposures were there when I put the card back in the camera, but there was no way to get them off (even using the camera connected via USB to the computer to try uploading them that way). An emergency purchase of PhotoRescue saved all but 6 exposures! Another highly recommended product.

    Neal Lippman on May 28th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
  40. #40

    I wanted to say thank you. I am not what you would call computer smart but I too am a photographer. I’m just starting off and I have been wondering what to do to back up my photos. A fellow blogger told me to add another memory card to my computer and buy a flash drive and that should be all I need. They suggested a website called http://www.memorysuppliers.com. Have you ever heard of it?? Anyways, I went there and ordered a new memory card and a flash drive. I haven’t received them yet but I’m anxious for them to get here. I don’t know how to install a memory card, and I also don’t know how to use a flash drive so hopefully they come with really good instructions. My dream is to one day open my own photography business and I just knew that storing photos on a computer just wasn’t enough. If the computer caught a virus I would lose them all. So again thank you. I now know what to do to make sure that my photos now and the photos I’m going to take are saved properly. That is really important to me right now because I am the photographer at my grandfather’s upcoming wedding. Yes I said grandfather. This is my first wedding and I don’t want anything to go wrong!!

    Ivanna on May 28th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
  41. #41

    Scott,

    How do you, or do you synchronize your home and work backups?

    Laurie Iten on May 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
  42. #42

    Yes, but where, exactly, does backup prudence turn into backup paranoia? I’m thinking of the film days when there were NO backups. In some ways, digital files are perhaps more fragile than film, but in some ways they’re not.

    Mike Mundy on May 28th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
  43. #43

    Here’s another vote for the Drobo! We used one where I used to work. There’s nothing easier…

    bret on May 28th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
  44. #44

    There is nothing special about the OWC drives and they can and will fail just like any other drive. What is very nice about these drives, is the multiple connectivity options and the fact that you can have a 7200 RPM drive without requiring an external power supply. That makes them a huge value versus the reliability that was mentioned. These drives use the same exact drives most have in their laptops — nothing special about the drives but big plus on the enclosure.

    Some of the solutions listed if you are a hobbiest versus a pro, are a bit extreme and expensive. The trick to proper backups is simple — have redundency.

    You easily find enclosures for $40 and I have several that can be networked or daisy chained. My very simply backup strategy is this: Dell Laptop with a single OWC drive for backup in the field. Files move from the memory card to the Dell laptop hard drive and then to the external OWC drive. Once home, I copy from the OWC to a seperate data HD on my PC (I have two HDs, one OS and applications, and one data only). From the data HD, files get copied to two attached USB external HD. After the copies are made to my home drives, I delete the files from my laptop and OWC drive to reduce clutter and at this point I have 3 copies and don’t need 5. I also use NovaBackup to make backups of my PC and Laptop to yet another HD.

    There are plenty of free Sync and backup tools that you can find to help you set this up. I have lost several drives over the years, but have yet to loose any data. Key, is have a good DAM folder structure to make it very easy to move files and keep things in sync, without a good DAM strategy, you will quickly loose files. At present I only have 50Gb of pictures and PSDs.

    Simple redundency is all that is required…and it does NOT have to be expensive.

    Enzo on May 30th, 2008 at 12:46 am
  45. #45

    I agree backup is key. However I am now in the starving artist period of my life and cannot afford all the hardware you mention - if only I could! I download directly from my camera to a Buffalo drive but have a great fear of what would happen if that were to fail. So I contacted the NAPP equipment help desk and have just received Bob’s recommended drive - Western Digital’s My Book Studio Edition II. If was just $240 from Amazon for the 1 terrabyte model and I will hook it up today and sleep better tonight.

    I used to have an online photo storage service which went out of business. I received a survey from Adobe which implied that they might be offering such a service. It can be pricey for large numbers of photos, but having storage in a remote location in a different geographical area seems to be a failsafe in case of disaster. What are your thoughts on this?

    As always, thanks for the timely reminder and all the other inspiration you have provided to the Photoshop community over the years.

    Carolyn Fahm on May 30th, 2008 at 8:19 am
  46. #46

    How do you back up to drobo? (ie what software)
    And YES, how do you keep everything synchronized?
    THANKS!

    Stefan on June 2nd, 2008 at 7:11 pm
  47. #47

    Thank’s Scott for sharing this…
    but i have another question..

    Let’s say you shoot a wedding…you take backup with the way you describe..sweet..

    But now the real work beggins..so i end up with hundrets of psd files,with my work for the wedding album, kanvas prints, extra print, dvd covers, contact albums and stuff like this..call me insecure, but i don’t wan’t to lose anything from these.
    So i end up with a 80GB folder for just one wedding…and now?
    Backup time…
    I usualy take two backups in different places…
    One in DVD disks, and one in an external HDD…
    So i have for one wedding, JUST ONE WEDDING, 20 DVDs and 80GB on the HDD…

    My question is this…what about next?
    I mean a 500GB HDD, can fit in about 12 weddings…
    what do you do next..?You start collecting HDD?
    I had an idea to start erasing the old ones and have only the DVD backup..
    but i can’t..I said it before..you can call me insecure…

    Do you have something in your mind?

    Thank you for your time Scott..
    (excuse my teribble english, i am from Greece!)
    NAPP member (897344)

    Akis Douzlatzis

    Akis Douzlatzis on June 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 am
  48. #48

    Akis:

    I have to admit, I am impressed that you generate 80GB of data from a single wedding! You must do an enormous amount of post-processing, printing, books, etc!

    One suggestion for you: There was a blog posting some time ago, I think from Chase Jarvis (http://www.charsejarvis.com/blog) although I may be misrembering where I read this, which talked about some workflow issues. The relevant point for you is that his workflow includes archiving each completed project to its own external hard drive, which was then stored.

    This may seem like overkill and/or an unusually high expense, but at least in the case of Chase Jarvis, he is doing high-end shoots for big clients, and the cost of an external drive (or two) can easily be invoiced as part of the project cost.

    Today, you can generally get a 160GB USB drive for around $100 (US); I don’t seem to see any smaller external drives on the market lately. Since you need about 80B/wedding, you could use 2 160GB drives, and use them to store two weddings, one copy of each wedding on each drive, so that each drive holds two weddings and each wedding is backed up to two separate drives. One drive is stored in your studio/office, the other could be offsite. The cost of $100 can be added to the charge for the wedding, and given what you seem to do/deliver, I would bet it would be a charge most couples woudl be willing to accept.

    One downside to consider, though, is that there has generally been some thought that external drives need to be periodically spun up to avoid long-term failure and data loss, and of course if you have a few hundred USB drives sitting around, spinning them up even once/month adds up to a lot of time spent! I don’t know the validity of this, however.

    Neal Lippman on June 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
  49. #49

    Be careful with the Epson. I lost an entire days shoot when my P-2000 dies. Unrecoverable. Another tip. If your Epson makes ANY funny noises on boot-up immediately shut it down and take it to a data repair center. Try to bootup a few times and you’ll do more damage. You live and you learn….

    mike on June 4th, 2008 at 1:27 am
  50. #50

    I do all that, PLUS copy each picture in crayon to make sure I always have an extra copy. Course, the house burned down that one time and I lost my crayon backup, but that won’t happen now because I have a new asbestos wall liner!

    Fungo on June 5th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
  51. #51

    To answer Mike Mundy @1912 May 28: it’s not whether you’re paranoid, it’s whether you’re paranoid enough. Scale the level of your paranoia to the value of your data. If you’re a hobby photographer, burn to DVDs and keep ‘em in the dark. If you’re a pro, do like Scott. If you’re a reprographics house, buy a ten grand LTO-4 jukebox, a multi-terabyte SAN, and as many sysadmins as it takes to feed and water them. If you’re Conde Nast…

    One thing that can’t be stressed enough is to periodically review your backups to make sure they still work. I got burnt like that 15 years ago and the memory still haunts me. In a bad data-loss incident, you WILL, no kidding, experience psychological trauma. I had real, actual nightmares for weeks. We got the data back, but for a while it looked like a million bucks’ worth or so of work had gone down the drain. I spent the next month designing a triply-redundant backup strategy which worked seamlessly fo the next five years.

    When it comes to backups (to paraphrase Terry Pratchett), there’s the easy way and the hard way. The hard way’s pretty hard, but not as hard as the easy way.

    David Gillies on June 5th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
  52. #52

    I found this Guide to online backup on Wikipedia! I thought it was extremely helpful so I put it here to share! (http://memopal.clickmeter.com/891931.html)! I just discovered online backup and I think it’s a good way to protect data! Can anyone confirm this???

    miky on June 24th, 2008 at 4:33 am
  53. #53

    Get article! Apple did a fine job on creating time machine. They took the great unix tools that exist and created a really nice gui tool. Have you had any experiences with Time Machine and running databases on the computer? Probably not a big issue, but I was just curious. But again, thanks for the great article on computer backup.

    Frank.

    Frank Thomas on July 1st, 2008 at 8:21 pm
  54. #54

    Scott: I’d like to know which OWC On The Go drive (size, speed) you use or recommend. I’d use it to bck up my Macbook Pro.

    Thanks

    Steve Broome on July 14th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

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