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		<title>By: The High-Wire Act of Getting Photo Permits by Scott Kelby. &#124; DigitalPixels.net - Photography Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-105342</link>
		<dc:creator>The High-Wire Act of Getting Photo Permits by Scott Kelby. &#124; DigitalPixels.net - Photography Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-87794</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip...I guess I'll ask about nudity when I call :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip&#8230;I guess I&#8217;ll ask about nudity when I call <img src='http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Speedlinks, June 11, 2008 &#124; Cosa de Chicos</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-85837</link>
		<dc:creator>Speedlinks, June 11, 2008 &#124; Cosa de Chicos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] â€¢ Scott Kelby takes you on a tour of photo permit purgatory. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Contests, Permits, Lego Vault, et al [Coffee Break] &#38;raquo Coffee and Celluloid</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-70147</link>
		<dc:creator>Contests, Permits, Lego Vault, et al [Coffee Break] &#38;raquo Coffee and Celluloid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The High-Wire Act of Getting Photo Permits by Scott Kelby [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Weaver</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-67885</link>
		<dc:creator>David Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe...Look at the trouble Google's Street view is causing.  Generally, I don't press the issue.  If I'm asked to move on I will comply.  I will never hand over gear or images to anyone, well, unless it is my editor.  I'm always nice to cops too.  An important skill is to disarm people when they approach you about shooting.  Ask them questions about the place, tell them your grandma used to work there, if she did.  Even security guards and off-duty cops will generally be helpful.  Take some notes and look interested, I generally learn something cool and new from these encounters.  I've even kept shooting while having these conversations.    I've shot panoramas that require a tripod and shot outside the State Capital.  To use a tripod inside is more a safety issue and I would ask for permission before setting up inside a public building.  Same goes for museums and other publicly funded indoor locations.  Think of tripods as  a pedestrian traffic hazards and work with those that can help you to get the shots you desire.   Since I only do editorial work and work "for my personal collection"  I don't have many issues when I do have an encounter with someone about my shooting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe&#8230;Look at the trouble Google&#8217;s Street view is causing.  Generally, I don&#8217;t press the issue.  If I&#8217;m asked to move on I will comply.  I will never hand over gear or images to anyone, well, unless it is my editor.  I&#8217;m always nice to cops too.  An important skill is to disarm people when they approach you about shooting.  Ask them questions about the place, tell them your grandma used to work there, if she did.  Even security guards and off-duty cops will generally be helpful.  Take some notes and look interested, I generally learn something cool and new from these encounters.  I&#8217;ve even kept shooting while having these conversations.    I&#8217;ve shot panoramas that require a tripod and shot outside the State Capital.  To use a tripod inside is more a safety issue and I would ask for permission before setting up inside a public building.  Same goes for museums and other publicly funded indoor locations.  Think of tripods as  a pedestrian traffic hazards and work with those that can help you to get the shots you desire.   Since I only do editorial work and work &#8220;for my personal collection&#8221;  I don&#8217;t have many issues when I do have an encounter with someone about my shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Solimini</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-67276</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Solimini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks,

Generally speaking, if you're taking a picture from PUBLIC LAND (street, sidewalk, etc) then no one has any right to stop you. If some security guard attempts to detain you, that's unlawful. If they take your camera, it's theft. if they force you to delete a picture in lieu of detention, it's destruction of property.

Here's the best rule to think about when shooting buildings: If it can be seen in a public space, you can take all the pictures you want. And barring identifiable people in the picture, you can sell that picture. To use the example in the story, you could walk up to the guggenheim, take a nice picture, go home, post-process, make it B&#38;W -- and then sell that picture on your website. All legal. 

I strongly suggest everyone take a look at this fantastic review of the legal rights of photographers. I always carry a copy of it in my bag. 

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm


Thanks,
-Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>Generally speaking, if you&#8217;re taking a picture from PUBLIC LAND (street, sidewalk, etc) then no one has any right to stop you. If some security guard attempts to detain you, that&#8217;s unlawful. If they take your camera, it&#8217;s theft. if they force you to delete a picture in lieu of detention, it&#8217;s destruction of property.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the best rule to think about when shooting buildings: If it can be seen in a public space, you can take all the pictures you want. And barring identifiable people in the picture, you can sell that picture. To use the example in the story, you could walk up to the guggenheim, take a nice picture, go home, post-process, make it B&amp;W &#8212; and then sell that picture on your website. All legal. </p>
<p>I strongly suggest everyone take a look at this fantastic review of the legal rights of photographers. I always carry a copy of it in my bag. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm</a></p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
-Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Photography News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Speedlinks, June 11, 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-67043</link>
		<dc:creator>Photography News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Speedlinks, June 11, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#8230;On Photo Permits at nyc.locationscout.us</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-65248</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;On Photo Permits at nyc.locationscout.us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The High-Wire Act of Getting Photo Permits By Scott on Monday, June 9th, 2008 at 3:09 am &#124; updates. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: R Stafford</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-65114</link>
		<dc:creator>R Stafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might find this useful: 
http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/

Still Photography and Permits 
On US and California Public Land

By Jeff Conrad for the Large Format Page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might find this useful:<br />
<a href="http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/" rel="nofollow">http://www.largeformatphotography.info/photo-permits/</a></p>
<p>Still Photography and Permits<br />
On US and California Public Land</p>
<p>By Jeff Conrad for the Large Format Page</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-64983</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jtk stated "There is no law against creating a copy of a copyrighted work explicitly."

How much more explicit can it be then the first exclusive right granted in section 106(1) of the Copyright Act?

Why do you find the third right (106(3) distribution) compelling but choose to ignore the COPY right?

I'm aware of other sections that provide defenses (fair use) or exceptions (e.g., 1008) to copying. It's irrelevant to answering your statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jtk stated &#8220;There is no law against creating a copy of a copyrighted work explicitly.&#8221;</p>
<p>How much more explicit can it be then the first exclusive right granted in section 106(1) of the Copyright Act?</p>
<p>Why do you find the third right (106(3) distribution) compelling but choose to ignore the COPY right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware of other sections that provide defenses (fair use) or exceptions (e.g., 1008) to copying. It&#8217;s irrelevant to answering your statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Links - June 13, 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1465/comment-page-2#comment-64927</link>
		<dc:creator>Links - June 13, 2008 &#171; Photo Notes: Photography by Patty Hankins and Bill Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Insider has advice for getting photography permits and a wonderful guest post from Moose [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always state "Under section 120 of the Federal Copyright act, I am permitted to take pictures.  If you would like I can wait while you go look it up."  

I've that when presented with someone who seems to know the specific section of a law, they back down. If they don't ask to speak to their supervisor, usually they will back down then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always state &#8220;Under section 120 of the Federal Copyright act, I am permitted to take pictures.  If you would like I can wait while you go look it up.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve that when presented with someone who seems to know the specific section of a law, they back down. If they don&#8217;t ask to speak to their supervisor, usually they will back down then.</p>
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