The Initial Results Are In For “How to Get Exactly What We Want in The Next Version of Photoshop…”

A couple of weeks back, I ran an article called “How to get exactly what we want in the next versions of Photoshop and Lightroom” (here’s the link), and in it I floated this fairly “out there” concept: Imagine if Adobe agreed to contact it’s registered Photoshop users to find out exactly which features they wanted to see in the next version of Photoshop, and then Adobe’s engineers committed to including ALL of the “top 10″ most popular features in the next version of Photoshop, no ifs, ands or butts. That’d be pretty wild, eh?
Now, I want to make it clear that Adobe could add absolutely as many “other” features as they wanted, so they’re could be 50 or 100 new features, but those “top 10″ would have to be included no matter what. That way, we’d get exactly what we want, plus whatever Adobe’s engineers can dream up (which is usually some incredibly amazing stuff).
I went on to list the features that I’d love to see in the next version, and then I invited you (my readers) to post your ideas for what you’d like to see in the next Photoshop. After a few days, I’d compile the top 25 or so most frequent feature requests (from your comments), and then put up an online survey where you could vote for your top 10 from that list. Then, whatever that final top 10 wound up being, I’d deliver that list to the Photoshop product managers at Adobe.
Now, it’s important to note that Adobe hasn’t agreed to do any of this—it’s just an experiment—kind of a “wouldn’t it be cool if….” kind of thing, and because it’s not a poll of Adobe’s registered users, but instead a poll of people who read my blog, it’s totally unscientific. That being said: Tomorrow I’m running that online survey here on the blog, where I’ll list the top 25 or so most requested features (according to your comments), and then you’ll be able to vote for the 10 features you’d like to see most in Photoshop, and I’ll post the results from that survey on Monday.
Now, what I did find interesting where what some of your most-requested features were. For example:
- Have the Crop Tool include a “rule of thirds” grid (Like Lightroom) was a common request
- Requests for better built-in HDR process was the #1 most frequent comment
- Adding the ability to customize the toolbar was very popular
- Making Shadow/Highlight a real Adjustment Layer (not just having a workaround as we do currently) was a very popular request
- Better built-in Noise Reduction was one of the most popular requests
- The ability to change the default settings for Layer Styles was big, with numerous references to the dreaded “Red Stroke” default (in fact, if Adobe just changed the default stroke color to black, they’d probably win a lot of love)
- A lot of overall requests to make Photoshop work, look, and act more like Lightroom
There were a lot of other really great ideas, in fact some of them were brilliant; it’s just that many were features needed to address an individual’s particular problem for the particular type of Photoshop work they’re doing. In those instances, only that one person requested that feature, and in this type of “majority rules” decision-making process, those very nichey types of feature requests wouldn’t make the list, but that doesn’t lessen the quality or legitimacy of the request.
For example, if you use Photoshop in your work as a dental surgeon, there are probably a few things Adobe could change, or add, that would make your job SO much easier, but unfortunately there’s just not a big enough number of dental surgeons to have that feature show up in a “top 10″ list. Also, the feature one dental surgeon might be clamoring for, another dental surgeon might not find all that useful, so you can quickly see how these niche areas are going to be underserved when it comes to a feature popularity contest. If you go back and read some of the comments from that post, you’ll see some people in a similarly frustrating situation.
Anyway, tomorrow you’ll get to vote on the full list, and choose your favorite wish-list features from the list, and then Monday we’ll see the final results. See you here tomorrow for the voting!












Wishes do come true…..
Thank you Scott
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Once again I think this is a great idea. If I was working at Adobe I’d be very happy with a top-ten list of most wanted new features.
Hi Scott!
Will you be doing a similar Top25 -> Top10 poll for LightRoom?
tu scott,
great idea. Im sure the guys from adobe will love yours suggestions.
personnally i would the hdr go be as good then photomatix that i use all the times for my portfolio of paris HTTP://www.photoserge.com
Keep up the good work !
That’s just great Scott. The only question is whether Adobe will really listen… but let’s hope so
fantastic idea, scott!
Hope the great guys at adobe will listen to some of the suggestions. For a (nearly) perfect cs4!
Greetings from austria,
kurt
I noticed that “Filter adjustment layers” didn’t make your list. I know from browsing through the comments that quite a few people did bring that up as well. Would be very nice to have an adjustment layer you can insert in between that applies a filter to all layers below it. Think of a shot that has water in it and you have comped up many different layers, but then want to apply a ripple effect to everything that would be underwater in the shot. Currently, you have to make a merged copy then apply the filter then mask away what you want the filter to affect. If things just don’t look right because of the position something has after the filter, you have to throw away the flattened layer move the layers below around a bit, then go through the whole process again.
I don’t know what Adobe did to their resizing options in CS3, but it’s worse than CS2. No matter how I resize my photo’s, I end up getting jaggies. I tried with my old version of CS2, and the jaggies were not as apparent. I’m not sure if Adobe is aware of this issue, but it needs to be resolved. How many more of you have suffered from this issue?
Good Afternoon from sunny Spain!
I have (am) going through your very enjoyable KelbyTraining Vids at the moment, and the theme I am watching refers to the White Balance from the Sun Glasses shot, and you refer to using a grey (spelt corectly!) card held and supplied by you (Book plugging I suspect), Which brings me to yours and Matts blog from Wed as to the things that you would like Adobe to include in their next version of Ps, and I was wondering if instead of a Grey Card being included in studio shot for example, is that when the photo is opened in raw,I notice that the frame surrounding the photo is grey as well, now do you think it would be feasible do “eyedrop” outside of the photo and into this area to get the “Grey” scale desired,maybe this frame area could indeed be divided into the four areas replicating your card, (but without the hot-spots that your card showed!!!!
Glad you enjoyed your holiday in Italy,trick is to wear dark glasses all the time so that “She who must be obeyed” doesn´t know that your warping the talent!! but you probably know that.
If your in the Valencia area of Spain in the near future drop me a mail.
Regards
James
Built in tone mapping for HDR images would be an amazing addition to Photoshop. I currently use Photomatix Pro to tone map my HDR images and it works great… but the ability to stay inside Photoshop and achieve the same results would be great.
It’ll be interesting to check the top 25 against what is already in CS4.
I hope you made a separate list of all the requests people made for things that were already in CS3.
Scott, it’s really great to see how your idea has gotten the Photoshop user community jazzed; thanks for doing that!
As a veteran (aka “old”) product manager, with intimate knowledge of how features get into software products - including the one in question - allow me to offer up a humble suggestion regarding feature requests:
Don’t define the implementation of the feature in the request; just tell them the problem you want to solve.
Example of the right way to ask:
“I want to be able to easily frame and crop my photos using one of the established principles of good composition, i.e. the rule-of-thirds or the golden-rectangle.”
This puts the onus on the professional interaction designers, product managers and engineers to come up with the most elegant solution to your problem.
In the above example, sure, it might be good enough for them to give you a grid in the cropping tool, but with the suggestion above, you might ALSO get image analysis capability that gives you a starting point and places the focal point of the image under one of the grid intersections automatically.
Let’s move the example to another realm, and see if it resonates better…
Bad idea:
Doctor, I would like you to reconstruct my anterior cruciate ligament using the allograft technique.
Better idea:
Doctor, it hurts when I fully extend my knee and place weight on it and when I move laterally; I’d like you to make it not hurt and give me a more stable knee.
If you keep this technique of feature requests in mind as you build your list, I’m pretty confident you will end up with better and more innovative features.
Thanks!
Scott, I loved your idea, but I think it has at least one flaw: I know there are people that probably didn’t request certain features because they noticed that others had already made the same suggestions and didn’t want to be redundant. This lack of a “me too” comment will skew your results.
Since some people suggested some brilliant comments that were not replicated by others, maybe it might not hurt to submit to Adobe 2 lists. The first list is your top 10. The other list is simply a collection of all the suggestions that were submitted. You can simply request that they go through the list (which shouldn’t take them more than a few minutes) to see if it sparks any more “wow, we hadn’t thought of that!” ideas that they might be interested in incorporating.
Karl - on the Adobe forums there is a lively Features request section for each piece of software and has been there for years. And you will also get the guys who write PS explaining why somethings are not practical, so Adobe does pay attention.
Lot of current features were initially requested there several years before appearing in PS, and many that looked familiar from there, appeared in Scott’s poll.
Also when beta testing progs like PS, there are feature requests forums for tweaking/improving the software as it goes along and for future reference.
Adobe PS forums - http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bbf2764/?@95.9Q7zi0r5Wav@
annoyingly there are two request forums, one for Mac users and one for PC users. It would make more sense to conflate the two as most requests have nothing to do with the OS.
I would like to able to use the computer while the Bridge is downloading files from my CF card. Now I have to sit and twiddle my thumb, sometimes for a long time, if I am downloading several (200) files, apply personal templates and convert them all to DNG. It will be nice to have this done in the background. Thanks, Vij