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		<title>By: Alex81</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-2#comment-180947</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My psychic ability suggests not! ,</description>
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		<title>By: sandrar</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-2#comment-173924</link>
		<dc:creator>sandrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post&#8230; nice! I love your blog.  <img src='http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Cheers! Sandra. R.</p>
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		<title>By: South African Wedding Photography</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-2#comment-130416</link>
		<dc:creator>South African Wedding Photography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lightroom vs&#160;Photoshop...&lt;/strong&gt;

Very interesting post by Adobe’s Andrew Rodney over on Photoshop Insider about how he, a Photoshop user has learned to love Lightroom. Check it out here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lightroom vs&nbsp;Photoshop&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Very interesting post by Adobe’s Andrew Rodney over on Photoshop Insider about how he, a Photoshop user has learned to love Lightroom. Check it out here.<br />
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		<title>By: Dror Eyal</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-2#comment-130414</link>
		<dc:creator>Dror Eyal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve pretty much switched to almost 100% LR work. Having to deliver hundreds of images week after week, it was the only way we could actually manage. It seems that in the wedding field there is an arms race with photographers promising more and more images - and the only way to compete was using LR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve pretty much switched to almost 100% LR work. Having to deliver hundreds of images week after week, it was the only way we could actually manage. It seems that in the wedding field there is an arms race with photographers promising more and more images &#8211; and the only way to compete was using LR.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Leach</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-1#comment-115695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it a bit rude to delete my post? Just trying to add to the forum. Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it a bit rude to delete my post? Just trying to add to the forum. Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Leach</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-1#comment-112669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, got lightroom about three weeks ago. Also use CS3. 
 I decided that the images in lightroom were to soft for me; so instead of giving up and going back to curves in CS3, I decided to use the power of presets in lightroom.  
 Here is how I now get the CS3 look of curves into lightroom. using presets. I hope everyone can understand this. I describe the method on my blog. Jon
  http://jonsmac-arts-optimizations.blogspot.com/2009/01/lightroom-workflow.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, got lightroom about three weeks ago. Also use CS3.<br />
 I decided that the images in lightroom were to soft for me; so instead of giving up and going back to curves in CS3, I decided to use the power of presets in lightroom.<br />
 Here is how I now get the CS3 look of curves into lightroom. using presets. I hope everyone can understand this. I describe the method on my blog. Jon<br />
  <a href="http://jonsmac-arts-optimizations.blogspot.com/2009/01/lightroom-workflow.html" rel="nofollow">http://jonsmac-arts-optimizations.blogspot.com/2009/01/lightroom-workflow.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fredericton Designers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Rodney Guest Blogs on Photoshop Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredericton Designers &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Rodney Guest Blogs on Photoshop Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Photoshop and how he, as a Photoshop user of 18 years has learned to love Lightroom. Check it out here. BTW, the image above is a shot Andrew did of his late dog Tosh. He still has 3 dogs (hence the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rodney</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-1#comment-80549</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Localized control through masks and adjustment layers havenâ€™t been replaced by LRâ€™s more general controls, and LR2â€™s new selective editing tools, while useful, are still crude compared to those in PS.

No question the tools are super crude compared to Photoshop and I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll see major advances here. Since Photoshop is a pixel editor, we have infinite control. I think the newer selective color tools in LR2 are intended for broad strokes if you will. They help a great deal (lets burn in the corners, lets do large areas of correction). But I think for those of us that need really fine control, Photoshop will always be necessary. I think the idea is to minimize having to do large general area corrections on pixel based images which can be slower to accomplish. I&#039;d hate to see the LR team even waste the time trying to compete with Photoshop here considering all the other areas we need functionality (see Scott&#039;s list). I agree with your last sentence, the two products really complement each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Localized control through masks and adjustment layers havenâ€™t been replaced by LRâ€™s more general controls, and LR2â€™s new selective editing tools, while useful, are still crude compared to those in PS.</p>
<p>No question the tools are super crude compared to Photoshop and I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll see major advances here. Since Photoshop is a pixel editor, we have infinite control. I think the newer selective color tools in LR2 are intended for broad strokes if you will. They help a great deal (lets burn in the corners, lets do large areas of correction). But I think for those of us that need really fine control, Photoshop will always be necessary. I think the idea is to minimize having to do large general area corrections on pixel based images which can be slower to accomplish. I&#8217;d hate to see the LR team even waste the time trying to compete with Photoshop here considering all the other areas we need functionality (see Scott&#8217;s list). I agree with your last sentence, the two products really complement each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Reiter</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1779/comment-page-1#comment-80464</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Reiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work with digital images 8 hours a day (I own a fine art printing studio) and Photoshop has long been my tool of choice. For the last year, I&#039;ve been using Lightroom for all my RAW images before moving on to Photoshop. Does that lessen my reliance on Photoshop? Not always. I massage the best image out of LR and when it comes into PS, I have even more, and better, information to tweak. Localized control through masks and adjustment layers haven&#039;t been replaced by LR&#039;s more general controls, and LR2&#039;s new selective editing tools, while useful, are still crude compared to those in PS.

I love working with both programs and feel the results I&#039;m getting are definitely better than what I can achieve using either one separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with digital images 8 hours a day (I own a fine art printing studio) and Photoshop has long been my tool of choice. For the last year, I&#8217;ve been using Lightroom for all my RAW images before moving on to Photoshop. Does that lessen my reliance on Photoshop? Not always. I massage the best image out of LR and when it comes into PS, I have even more, and better, information to tweak. Localized control through masks and adjustment layers haven&#8217;t been replaced by LR&#8217;s more general controls, and LR2&#8217;s new selective editing tools, while useful, are still crude compared to those in PS.</p>
<p>I love working with both programs and feel the results I&#8217;m getting are definitely better than what I can achieve using either one separately.</p>
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		<title>By: byronbay-photography.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Rodney Guest Blogs on Photoshop Insider</title>
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		<dc:creator>byronbay-photography.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Rodney Guest Blogs on Photoshop Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and how he, as a Adobe Photoshop user of 18 years has learned to love Lightroom. Check it out here. BTW, the image above is a shot Andrew did of his late dog Tosh. He still has 3 dogs (hence the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rodney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;My traditional workflow was to produce the most â€œflatâ€, unsharpened image from RAW, to get the widest range of information for PP 

I don&#039;t know what makes you think that&#039;s providing the widest range of info (its not). 

&gt;BTW, I think, it still has better rendering output than ACR). Now with CS3 I change my workflow, because Adobe gave us an opportunity to open RAW in Photoshop as a Smart Object and fine tune RAW output in ACR anytime to fit current postprocessing needs.

ACR and LR.&#039;s develop module share the same processing engine and expect for tiny differences in UI, are identical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;My traditional workflow was to produce the most â€œflatâ€, unsharpened image from RAW, to get the widest range of information for PP </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what makes you think that&#8217;s providing the widest range of info (its not). </p>
<p>&gt;BTW, I think, it still has better rendering output than ACR). Now with CS3 I change my workflow, because Adobe gave us an opportunity to open RAW in Photoshop as a Smart Object and fine tune RAW output in ACR anytime to fit current postprocessing needs.</p>
<p>ACR and LR.&#8217;s develop module share the same processing engine and expect for tiny differences in UI, are identical.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, Lightroom has to many limitations to work effectively. First of all, there is no sufficient control over many tools (eg. Clarity or Highlight Recovery) - if I can&#039;t customize parameters, I can&#039;t get the effect I want. There is no real Curve control - no I can&#039;t get what I want with those lame sliders and I don&#039;t want to waste my time to find the way around if a few curve adjustments could make it immediately. Curve in ACR is much better, but I still need the control over each channel seperately, to recover data and set tonal gradations the way I want them to be.
My traditional workflow was to produce the most &quot;flat&quot;, unsharpened image from RAW, to get the widest range of information for PP (I mostly used DCRAW for it - BTW, I think, it still has better rendering output than ACR). Now with CS3 I change my workflow, because Adobe gave us an opportunity to open RAW in Photoshop as a Smart Object and fine tune RAW output in ACR anytime to fit current postprocessing needs. Using Smart Objects, Smart Filters and Adjustment Layers is incompareably faster and more effective way of working and with such possibilities I don&#039;t see any chance for Lightroom to get even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, Lightroom has to many limitations to work effectively. First of all, there is no sufficient control over many tools (eg. Clarity or Highlight Recovery) &#8211; if I can&#8217;t customize parameters, I can&#8217;t get the effect I want. There is no real Curve control &#8211; no I can&#8217;t get what I want with those lame sliders and I don&#8217;t want to waste my time to find the way around if a few curve adjustments could make it immediately. Curve in ACR is much better, but I still need the control over each channel seperately, to recover data and set tonal gradations the way I want them to be.<br />
My traditional workflow was to produce the most &#8220;flat&#8221;, unsharpened image from RAW, to get the widest range of information for PP (I mostly used DCRAW for it &#8211; BTW, I think, it still has better rendering output than ACR). Now with CS3 I change my workflow, because Adobe gave us an opportunity to open RAW in Photoshop as a Smart Object and fine tune RAW output in ACR anytime to fit current postprocessing needs. Using Smart Objects, Smart Filters and Adjustment Layers is incompareably faster and more effective way of working and with such possibilities I don&#8217;t see any chance for Lightroom to get even close.</p>
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