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	<title>Comments on: Adobe Announces Photoshop CS4 and NAPP Launches &#8220;The Photoshop CS4 Online Learning Center&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jytte Grand</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/2019/comment-page-1#comment-197211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jytte Grand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me has special PSCS4 - until I bought mac 10.6 (Snow Leopard) - been the best photoshop program untill now. Now PS CS4 has become a joke. All Mac-users with the same problems as mine, know what I am talking about, and if somebody know a solution, I would be delighted to hear about it.
But back to the question. If you use Windows or Mac older than 10,6 - 10,5 will be enough, Photoshop CS4 is to my opinion the best pro-photoshop program untill know. But I have heared. that Photoshop Elements 8 should be very good (and much cheeper than the pro-edition). 
Please Scott, can you help all of us Snow Leopard people, so we again can use  Photoshop 4 or extended, as I have invested a fortune in. - And thanks for your great books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me has special PSCS4 &#8211; until I bought mac 10.6 (Snow Leopard) &#8211; been the best photoshop program untill now. Now PS CS4 has become a joke. All Mac-users with the same problems as mine, know what I am talking about, and if somebody know a solution, I would be delighted to hear about it.<br />
But back to the question. If you use Windows or Mac older than 10,6 &#8211; 10,5 will be enough, Photoshop CS4 is to my opinion the best pro-photoshop program untill know. But I have heared. that Photoshop Elements 8 should be very good (and much cheeper than the pro-edition).<br />
Please Scott, can you help all of us Snow Leopard people, so we again can use  Photoshop 4 or extended, as I have invested a fortune in. &#8211; And thanks for your great books.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston-SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/2019/comment-page-1#comment-124391</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston-SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have Photoshop 7 and when it wouldn&#039;t work on the Leopard OS, I switched to Elements 3, which was bundled with another software and was free. It had many of the same features I have used the lion&#039;s share of the time, so I figured it was fine for me.  I realize the UI has changed since the latest version 7.  I am looking to further refine my Photoshop skills at the Photoshop World conference in Boston.  Question is, should I upgrade to CS4?  Or do you think I could get away with most things as is?  Just don&#039;t want to miss out with all the conference sessions by having the wrong version, but at the same time, if I can get buy without upgrading in this recession and be able to do most of the same things that would be great.

Would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!

-Wildman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have Photoshop 7 and when it wouldn&#8217;t work on the Leopard OS, I switched to Elements 3, which was bundled with another software and was free. It had many of the same features I have used the lion&#8217;s share of the time, so I figured it was fine for me.  I realize the UI has changed since the latest version 7.  I am looking to further refine my Photoshop skills at the Photoshop World conference in Boston.  Question is, should I upgrade to CS4?  Or do you think I could get away with most things as is?  Just don&#8217;t want to miss out with all the conference sessions by having the wrong version, but at the same time, if I can get buy without upgrading in this recession and be able to do most of the same things that would be great.</p>
<p>Would appreciate any feedback.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>-Wildman</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe Announces Photoshop CS4 and NAPP Launches â€œThe Photoshop CS4 Online Learning Centerâ€ &#171; ChromaticSoul :: The Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adobe Announces Photoshop CS4 and NAPP Launches â€œThe Photoshop CS4 Online Learning Centerâ€ &#171; ChromaticSoul :: The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the hard part for me is deciding between the Photoshop CS4 Standard and the Extended edition, specifically whether as a amateur photographer there&#039;s anything I&#039;ll be &quot;missing out on&quot;.  In CS3 Standard, which I didn&#039;t upgrade to, it couldn&#039;t handle 32-bit files when doing HDR merges, but the current marketing blurbs on CS4 don&#039;t say whether only the Extended version will handle 32-bit files or not - otherwise there&#039;s no &quot;compelling&quot; 

I agree that the challenge now is whether I want LR2 as well as CS4, because I can see both sides of that argument - I use another tool to manage my library, and now the ACR function is updated in CS4 the previously killer features of lightroom are probably less important.... but once again I can see the value in doing so much more &quot;all in one tool&quot;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the hard part for me is deciding between the Photoshop CS4 Standard and the Extended edition, specifically whether as a amateur photographer there&#8217;s anything I&#8217;ll be &#8220;missing out on&#8221;.  In CS3 Standard, which I didn&#8217;t upgrade to, it couldn&#8217;t handle 32-bit files when doing HDR merges, but the current marketing blurbs on CS4 don&#8217;t say whether only the Extended version will handle 32-bit files or not &#8211; otherwise there&#8217;s no &#8220;compelling&#8221; </p>
<p>I agree that the challenge now is whether I want LR2 as well as CS4, because I can see both sides of that argument &#8211; I use another tool to manage my library, and now the ACR function is updated in CS4 the previously killer features of lightroom are probably less important&#8230;. but once again I can see the value in doing so much more &#8220;all in one tool&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does NAPP discount apply to full version purchase, upgrade purchase or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does NAPP discount apply to full version purchase, upgrade purchase or both?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope that NAPP does not leave the people who are just starting to catch on with Photoshop CS3 in the dust. There are some (I am sure) like me that can not upgrade for awhile due to the costs of the program, books, etc. Trying to learn a new Photoshop in midstream could confuse the learning process.

JJS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope that NAPP does not leave the people who are just starting to catch on with Photoshop CS3 in the dust. There are some (I am sure) like me that can not upgrade for awhile due to the costs of the program, books, etc. Trying to learn a new Photoshop in midstream could confuse the learning process.</p>
<p>JJS</p>
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		<title>By: B Forsberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Forsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IÂ´m a NAPP member since almost a year now and it has proved to be a really good investment, knowledgewise.
Financially not as good as for members in the US, IÂ´m thinking of the member benefits from ex. Adobe and some other vendors. When I upgraded my LR2 I first tried to purchase a download copy from the US Adobe Store on the web, my intention was to make use of my NAPP discount.. Software specialists as the are at Adobe I was directed to the European Adobe Store - No NAPP discount permitted!

Dear Scott, with all your insights and connections at Adobe HQ, - maybe you can influence them to make the NAPP discount available also in other countries, or at least as a start for NAPP members within EU to see what effect that might have both for NAPP and Adobe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IÂ´m a NAPP member since almost a year now and it has proved to be a really good investment, knowledgewise.<br />
Financially not as good as for members in the US, IÂ´m thinking of the member benefits from ex. Adobe and some other vendors. When I upgraded my LR2 I first tried to purchase a download copy from the US Adobe Store on the web, my intention was to make use of my NAPP discount.. Software specialists as the are at Adobe I was directed to the European Adobe Store &#8211; No NAPP discount permitted!</p>
<p>Dear Scott, with all your insights and connections at Adobe HQ, &#8211; maybe you can influence them to make the NAPP discount available also in other countries, or at least as a start for NAPP members within EU to see what effect that might have both for NAPP and Adobe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/2019/comment-page-1#comment-88476</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, this has nothing to do with your blog entry, but I thought you might want to share it with your readers.  I was looking for a replacement lens hood for an old lens and found this site.  It has patterns for cutting out lens hoods out of cardboard (or I was thinking black craft foam) for hundreds of lenses.  Joe

http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, this has nothing to do with your blog entry, but I thought you might want to share it with your readers.  I was looking for a replacement lens hood for an old lens and found this site.  It has patterns for cutting out lens hoods out of cardboard (or I was thinking black craft foam) for hundreds of lenses.  Joe</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/hoods/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rodney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I agree. The RAW adjustment brush almost makes Lightroom 2 obsolete (if you have Photoshop). I guess we should have knw they were going to incorporate that into RAW 5. Too bad I canâ€™t get credit for buying Lightroom2 and PS CS3 in order to upgrade to CS4.

You&#039;re missing the other modules and the DAM (catalog) functionality of LR! 

I can almost guarantee that LR and ACR will always have the same processing pipeline (Develop and ACR will share nearly identical parity). If all you want in either product is what you find in Develop, then yes, you should be sticking with Photoshop and ACR. But there&#039;s a heck of a lot more about LR than that single module. Or maybe you&#039;re just not using them, in which case, LR isn&#039;t a good fit for you. 

Try printing out 30 images in Photoshop at differing sizes compared to doing the same task in LR. BIG difference in how long it will take. Work on an image in even ACR and quit. Where&#039;s you editing history? Gone. 

Different tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I agree. The RAW adjustment brush almost makes Lightroom 2 obsolete (if you have Photoshop). I guess we should have knw they were going to incorporate that into RAW 5. Too bad I canâ€™t get credit for buying Lightroom2 and PS CS3 in order to upgrade to CS4.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re missing the other modules and the DAM (catalog) functionality of LR! </p>
<p>I can almost guarantee that LR and ACR will always have the same processing pipeline (Develop and ACR will share nearly identical parity). If all you want in either product is what you find in Develop, then yes, you should be sticking with Photoshop and ACR. But there&#8217;s a heck of a lot more about LR than that single module. Or maybe you&#8217;re just not using them, in which case, LR isn&#8217;t a good fit for you. </p>
<p>Try printing out 30 images in Photoshop at differing sizes compared to doing the same task in LR. BIG difference in how long it will take. Work on an image in even ACR and quit. Where&#8217;s you editing history? Gone. </p>
<p>Different tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Chisolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Chisolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAPP members do get a 15% discount from Adobe!  The promotional code is: whoopsâ€¦  I canâ€™t tell you that you have to be a member.  Depending on which suite you get, this discount will more than pay for your NAPP membership!  Plus you will get all the other benefits of being a member.  I know people who originally got a NAPP membership just for the free shipping from B&amp; H.  NAPP membership is well worth the investment!

Gary Chisolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NAPP members do get a 15% discount from Adobe!  The promotional code is: whoopsâ€¦  I canâ€™t tell you that you have to be a member.  Depending on which suite you get, this discount will more than pay for your NAPP membership!  Plus you will get all the other benefits of being a member.  I know people who originally got a NAPP membership just for the free shipping from B&amp; H.  NAPP membership is well worth the investment!</p>
<p>Gary Chisolm</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any discount on the upgrade to CS4 for NAPP members?</description>
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		<title>By: magd soszka</title>
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		<dc:creator>magd soszka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yipeeee!  the only thing that sucks is that i got cs3 only 2 months ago and now i have to spend more $$$ for an upgrade! daaaarrrrnnn!!  can&#039;t wait to try it!  just please, no cs5 until i get my moneys worth :)

take care</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yipeeee!  the only thing that sucks is that i got cs3 only 2 months ago and now i have to spend more $$$ for an upgrade! daaaarrrrnnn!!  can&#8217;t wait to try it!  just please, no cs5 until i get my moneys worth <img src='http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>take care</p>
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