A Word From Moose About the Comments On The Nikon D3X
[Note From the Editor]: Moose and I were both emailing back and forth about the angry comments posted here yesterday by readers concerning Nikon’s new D3X product announcement. We were both surprised at all ‘the hatin” goin’ on.
My (Scott’s) take on it was this: “Look, Nikon came out with a new camera. It’s $8.000. If you think it’s too much, or not for you—-don’t buy it. That’s it. End of story. If Toyota comes out with a $75,000 car tomorrow, with just one big advantage over a Toyota Camry—I don’t get mad at Toyota. I don’t berate Toyota. I don’t go on forums and slam Toyota—-they can offer as many Toyotas as they want, at any price they want—I don’t have to buy one—I’ll just stick with my Camry. That’s it.”
Anyway, after writing back and forth, Moose emailed me a short story/follow-up, which I wanted to share with you here today because it’s much more eloquent than my short rant above. It’s Moose’s take on the situation, and I thought it really adds to the discussion. So, here my first mini-guest blog, from my friend Moose. –Scott].

The scent of fresh baked turkeys still lingers in the air, boxes are a strewn across the living floor as xmas reemerges for its grand annual show. The family has all come home and by some amazing good fortune, fresh snow has fallen so inside and out, everything just says happy holidays. Laughter is in the air, stories of past fun being told, adventure while we were apart are being shared. It’s what life is all about.
And then there is dad. He’s got that black box in his hand and light on a string bouncing of this wall, that ceiling, saying hold still, reposing a prior moment, crawling on the floor looking for a new angle (while you’re down there, can you hand me that ornament that just fell). He’s even outside on the deck shooting in through the giant window as if some stranger peering in on the family fun. “Honey, come in from out there, you’re scaring the neighbors!†All this just to preserve forever the special moments that, when we look back on the photograph, a smile comes to our face, a warmth to our heart.
Photography is a funny thing, it’s full of “gotchas!†and “round robins†and “catch 22s.†There are probably more idioms involving photography than life itself. And yet, that simple click of the camera can on one hand put a giant smile on your face, or giant frown. To have fun with a camera, you’ve gotta take some aspects seriously. Take photography too seriously and all the fun goes out of it. Throw into this mix the human factor and oh man, all hell can break loose!
The one thing though that has always puzzled me about photographers and their photography is, the stress they seem to pile on it. In all honesty, it’s just a picture. Yeah, the photograph can have an impact, they can change the world but, they are still a picture. The sun will rise tomorrow with or without those pixels corralled, shined and displayed. That’s more than can be said for some photographers though.
What brings me to this wondering rant is the current blogishsphere response to the D3x. Not too many years ago, photographers were daring the photo industry to come out with more pixels. Daring is probably too gentle a word, demanding is more accurate. While many of us were saying quality is more important that quantity, the web was alive with forecasts of world doom if we didn’t get more pixels. So the manufactures produced, on their time schedule (which never, ever matches photographers) said cameras and being more pixels, charged more. And with that done, now the outrage, the anger because what, they delivered what you asked for but at a price so they can stay in business? They are not putting a gun to your head to buy them, they are not taking away all the other less expensive options forcing you to jump on board. All they did was add another body to the line up. They brought out a tool that some demanded and others truly need. And with that, the flood of anger. Emotion in photography is good, it’s a must for powerful images, and contained in your image is where that emotion should be focused.
I had a very wise high school photo teacher, Mr Traub. Most of his lessons, being the typical dumb kid, didn’t sink in until long after I’d left his class. I learned a lot about photography, and photographers in those two years. One day after a number of the upper classman had moaned about how they were stuck using the “old†cameras, twin eye monsters, and not able to use the new Nikon F2, they weren’t able to take good images. Mr. Traub in his oh not so subtle style handed them his Nikon F2 with 55f3.5 Micro and said, “You go shoot with that, I’ll go out with this broken TEM and we’ll compare what we get.†We all know the outcome, Mr. Traub had great images, the kids had kid’s stuff. It wasn’t the gear but the inspiration, the talent and the emotion behind it that made the images.
I’m the first to admit: “Hi, my name is Moose, I’m addicted to cameras.†And yet with that admission, I still have a small camera bag of gear. I am very fortunate and thank the powers to be that I have the opportunity to evaluate gear before putting down hard earn cash so I add only those pieces, those tools that permit me to make a click into a smile. I would suggest if we took ourselves and our photography just a little less seriously, we’d have a whole lot more fun, better images to share and witness the best outcome of our efforts. Bringing a smile to the hearts of those we expose to our photography from the emotion we’ve packed into our photograph!
– Moose Peterson


















Well, Scottie: you are right; no one has to buy the D3X.
But, many of us are disappointed at its high price.
To me, its not worth $8000. I would like a higher
megapixel camera, but I won’t buy this one.
I just purchased the Nikon 500 mm f4 VR lens for
$8000, and am very happy. This lens is worth $8000 to
me. The D3X is not. Its about getting your money’s worth.
Which is why the car analogy doesn’t quite work.
John Mallery
Moose & Scott: Your comments are on point however most of the posters on forums take your points as a given. The key elements of the posters is that the D3 was an expensive camera and fell short in some persons judgement at the price (no sensor cleaning, lower pixel count etc.) They were further disturbed when the very similar D700 was released at a much lower price. Now the camera they may have originally wanted in the D3 (or close to it) is now offered with what appears as more pixels and new sensor for $3000 more. The D3 owner has been “taken to the cleaners” twice. I do not fully subscribed to same, however it is easy to look at it through this perspective. Also D3 cameras are dropping in price and value more rapidly.
Are Canon photographers more used to the D3x price level?
I think all the whine from Nikonians is because Nikon haven’t had an expensive dedicated studio camera in their line-up before, like 1Ds MkIII/II.
You don’t hear the average Canon user ranting over the 1Ds price level, because they already know it’s out of reach and focus on the other cameras instead.
If Canon can have this high performance, expensive studio camera, then why shouldn’t Nikon go for that market as well?
I know most of you expected a D4, D3h or even D700x to counter the 5D MkII, but those cameras aren’t disappearing with the announcement of D3x.
I have to say that I have to agree that Ken Rockwell is nuts for boycotting the new D3X. In fact, he should be boycotting ALL camera companies, as should we. An $8000 camera? Is this a joke? Even the D700 should be about $1000. No, seriously people. Some of the comments listed above are insane. “I don’t get mad when Toyota releases the newest Camry.” Wow, you go girl, way to stick to The Man! I have a D200, it cost $1700 Canadian. My previous camera was an F90x which I bought second hand. I’m still using most of the same lenses, with the exception of the 12-24mm DX. That camera lasted me about 10 years! Even my old FM still works and delivers the EXACT image quality as my F90X. BUT, In order to improve the so-called image quality of the D200 I have spend another couple of thousand at least in order to buy a D700 or more? I’m a school teacher, I love photography more than anybody, and I make $45,000. I cannot afford photography anymore though, it’s gone too far.
Sorry Scott and Moose, but I’m on the side that says Nikon missed this one badly and that you should feel free to express your opinion. As a loyal Nikon customer, I’m disappointed. At $5500 to $6000, I would have purchased a D3X, but now I’ll sit back and wait. Nikon’s given us the D3, D300, D700 and D90 in the past year. All great cameras, so I’ll cut them some slack. But Nikon, what are you thinking?
Scott, from your Toyota analogy, I gather that you’re not a car guy. This is more akin to Toyota putting a bigger engine (megapixels) in the Camry, but making it handle worse (ISO) all while raising the price 60%. What a deal!
At the end of the day, I’ll vote with my wallet and stay away.
Great site by the way. I visit it nearly every weekday. Thanks for all that you do!
I believe that Moose is absolutely correct. No one is twisting your arm to purchase a new camera. That choice is up to the individual. Just because the latest model has some new bells and whistles does not mean that you will need it to improve your work. It might make it a little easier or save some time. However, some will complain
It seems to me that ever since the camera was invented that there have been some outstanding photos produced with very primitive equipment. Think of what these folks could do with the equipment that is available today or in the near future.
I seem to remember there was a time when the 35mm was looked down on because of it’s grainy film and size, there always seem to complaints about grain in the film. When the DSR camera was introduced it was that there was no grain that you heard complaints, there was noise but no grain.
Doing photography from a painter trained in Fine Arts and as Moose has already said. “A camera does not a artist made.†All the training in the world and having the best and latest equipment does not make you an artist. Knowing the correct lighting, proper composition for the shot does not make you an artist. It may make you a great draftsman, but not an artist. The artist comes from inside, the soul. When the artist captures and image. He also captures the soul, the feeling of the image. It is not just a pretty picture. The image touches the feeling or soul of the individual that is observing the image.
If you can afford the latest in equipment. It will make your life a little easier. However, it will not make you a better photographer. So if you can’t afford the latest do with what you have consider it a zen thing.
So once again Scott, you have sought only to inform and enlighten and now you (and Moose) are suffering through an onslaught of public opinion. What no one has said yet (or at least I didn’t see it in abundance of posts over the last two days) is “You’re squeaking to the wrong guy”. I’m sure there must be someone within the Nikon organization (Makoto Kimura is the President of Imaging and he sits in Tokyo) who are in more of a position to do something about this than anyone on this blog. That’s what I’d do. Unfortunately I too am a Canon shooter so although I am always interested in reading about new technology, this is probably the last I’ll ever say about the Nikon D3X.
Regards,
Dennis
Amen to both of you. I could barely afford my new D60 so I didn’t have a clue about the hub bub of the D3X, oh my. How silly people are, what battles they choose! Here is how I chose the D60, to coincide with Moose’s teacher story. I watched a pod cast of Matt’s. He interviewed a great wedding photographer (or so he told me, I don’t know the guy’s name & recovering from recent illness am not inclined to search today). The photographer told Matt that he still shot with his D50 and he felt his pictures were fine. Nuff said! That proved to me that it is the person doing the shooting and not the $8000 camera that makes the great shot. So I purchased the D60.
If you don’t like the price, don’t buy it. Just wait for the next great thing to come along! Merry Christmas & anything else. Or as Rodney King said – Why can’t we all just get along. Go Scott! Go Moose! Go Nikon!
I am angry because i want to have one !
its simple as that
Sam,
Did you ever think that if it wasn’t for Mr Taub, Moose might not have been interested in photography, or that he may have encouraged Moose? Our lives routinely make an impact on others and most of the time we don’t even know it.
Not to add to the drama here, but I just want to say one thing on this.
I’m a Canon shooter, so this doesn’t affect me in any way, aside from this: Some of the posters here have been right, and those people have been on either side of the argument. Yes, there are correct ways of approaching an opinion on either end of this, and some people have done that. Here’s the thing, though. It certainly is a tool, and yes Nikon set their customer base up for financial failure if anyone wanted that “edge” on their market. But the people who would NEED a camera like this, are probably already making significant money, the people who THINK they need it, only think that way because they feel if they had it, they could use it to make that money. I know, I’m the same kind of person. I want a 5D Mark II so badly I can taste it, but there’s nothing “wrong” with my Rebel XT.
Of course, going from a Rebel XT to a 5D Mark II, for ISO reasons alone is a huge plus, since I shoot lots of concerts and am constantly struggling with noisy ISO 400 on the XT. But that’s where your own market and business needs have to play a big role in the decision making process. I can take the same pictures with either camera, the difference is that one of them will produce a higher quality version of the same pose and lighting. Nikon, and Nikon users need to ask themselves if the value is there, and from the looks of it, at this price tag, it is not.
Canon has been charging about 8K for the Dsmkii which is very similar to D3x. Why people are outraged?? Of course a lot of people ask how can canon charge 8K for the Dsmkiii when we can by the 5DMkII for less than 3K..
I think the nikonians could ask: What about a nikon model that is similar to 5Dmkii for a same price… Maybe the D800.. If that becomes available then everybody will be happy. For some 2extra fps etc is priceless. for others a ripoff if they got to pay 3k$ for it…
So where is my D800?? for
OK folk, it’s getting nasty, so I’m closing the comments (I’ve now deleted the mean posts).
First time I’ve had to do this since I started this blog back in 2005.
All this over a new camera. Sigh.
-Scott