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By: Kent

Kent — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:45:51 +0000

So to reiterate, 85-90% of Nick’s cohorts (which includes only “decent” photographers…along with Scott Kelby!) spend at least 10-15% time of their professional photography time per day leaving comments or replies to 85-90% of those who think differently than him. Also, 85-90% of the time, Nick tries to get in the last word. This is, no doubt, effective in 5-10% of the 10-15% of his time he spends replying to posts with 85-90% irrelevant content.

Note: There is an 85-90% chance Nick will respond to this comment during the 10-15% of his professional photography day when he is scheduled to respond to forum posts with increasingly discursive comments.

By: Digital Photography Tips

Digital Photography Tips — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:24:26 +0000

I haven’t had a chance to upgrade yet but I’m sure I will before the month is over.

By: alanvalek.com

alanvalek.com — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:09:42 +0000

It’s interesting to hear everybody’s opinion on this. If you’re a “Hobbyist” I can see why some people wouldn’t bother with all these upgrades, if you’re a photographer or designer you can make anywhere from 40K to upwards of 120k+ doing this type of work—is spending say, $600 REALLY that bad every 18 months for something make you that much money….? There’s tons of training online that’s free, you don’t need to buy specific CS3, CS4 books in my opinion, once you learn the basics you can buy a magazine to find out the new features. I wouldn’t look at reading or going to any seminars as a waste of time and money, I’ll go to CS4 seminars and CS5 seminars and won’t look at the CS4 ones as a waste of my time. Welcome to the computer industry, it won’t change, we all need to get used to it. Personally with how competitive this industry is, I want any extra edge over the next person that I can get.

By: Nick

Nick — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:12:48 +0000

I am a professional photographer and shoot daily. I am enrolled with Kelby Training and hold Scott and his team in high regard. These videos were fun but nothing new – been watching same on KT for weeks. Like Scott and many other high end photographers I find I spend around 90% of my time in Lightroom or Aperture. I use both. I save time by NOT needing to export to PS.

For those not familiar with English (It appears there are one or two), I merely stated that I did not think the upgrade was value for money and simply contained nothing compelling that would benefit my business. It would appear that around 85-90% of CS3 users think the same!

I may feel differently about CS5 – who knows?

By: Robbie R.

Robbie R. — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:12:58 +0000

Steve, You hit the nail on the head. As a CS3 Extended owner I’ve questioned why Adobe wants me to pay for much of the same code all over again. As a Lightroom 2 user I’ve also questioned why Adobe expects me to pay the full upgrade price when I’ve already bought much of the ACR5 code with Lightroom 2. These type of pricing decisions are ones that are made by companies who have overwhelming control of a market. They then begin to think that they are so important that it doesn’t matter what customers think, they will buy the product regardless. Well guess what? This time the little ole customer has said enough and sales of CS4 have been a bust. Adobe has been forced to lay people off and some analyst are now questioning their ability to fend off a takeover by a larger corporation.

Adobe has taken this creative suite approach too far. While the integration of their various products has been a great idea the problem is that they have decided to upgrade all of the products at the same time. While some products need updating every 12 to 18 months other more mature applications such as Photoshop can easily go 24 to 30 months. By coming out with these “upgrades” too soon users suffer upgrade fatigue and stop shelling out the money.

Remember while $200 for the Photoshop sounds reasonable that’s just the beginning of the true cost of an upgrade. With each software upgrade comes the expense of the training upgrade. All of our old CS3 books, training DVDs, and past class training now drops in value because of differences in program functionality. When you add in the cost of upgrading your library of books and DVDs, the expense of training and the cost of the loss of ones time reading, watching and attending training you can see that true costs of upgrading far exceeds the value of a few new features for the great majority of users.

I love Scott and the folks at NAPP; they have taught me quite a lot over the last several years about Photoshop but I hope they don’t start putting all their eggs in the Adobe upgrade basket because for many of us 18 months is just too often to have to be retrained.

By: Zac

Zac — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:52:01 +0000

As a professional photographer, the advantage of CS4 is that it saves me time. Time is money, my time is very valuable. The less time I’m in Ps, the more time I have for shooting or being with my family. And the upgrade price is minimal to provide me that.

If you are struggling to find a reason to upgrade, then maybe you have a lot of spare time, or you don’t shoot very often, or just you just don’t use Ps much, then that is great…don’t upgrade.

Thanks to The Photoshop Guys for all you do!

By: jobbdator.se

jobbdator.se — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:56:24 +0000

CS4-genomgången komplett…

Scott Kelby presenterar nyheterna i Adobe Photoshop CS4
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By: northern virginia photographer

northern virginia photographer — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:35:54 +0000

Phew, I need the help. Thanks every bit helps and I’m a true advocate for this site now.
Thanks

By: JosephF

JosephF — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:00:07 +0000

I wonder if you watched the four videos that explained all the cool upgrades? If you have, and disagree with what these guys say, post it. But I am going to assume that you haven’t since you are asking a guy you’ll never meet why he justifies the price. Here you are, like you and your opinions are important or something, asking a guy to list EXACTLY what Scott, Dave, and Mike spent FOUR VIDEOS explaining. You just want to feel important “as a photographer”, by questioning another photographer’s opinion. Do you think your opinion outweighs the PHOTOSHOP GUYS?!?!? Feel free to disagree with them, but you are almost starting an arguement with a guy you don’t know. Sorry guys for this harsh post, but this person’s pretentious question really got under my skin. What a stupid question!!!

By: Marianne

Marianne — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:01:59 +0000

Thanks, guys. So very helpful. I have now ordered CS4 and can’t wait to get started.

By: Nick

Nick — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:43:22 +0000

As a photographer what advantages do you find in CS4 that comes close to being value for money or particularly earth shattering? I am struggling to find anything!

Nick